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` UNITED STATES PATENT AND TRADEMARK OFFICE
` BEFORE THE PATENT TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD
`CQG, INC., and CQGT, LLC, :
` Petitioner, :
`v. :
`TRADING TECHNOLOGIES :
`INTERNATIONAL, INC., :
`Patent Owner. :
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` Case CBM2015-00058
` Patent 6,772,132 B1
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` Case CBM2015-00057
` Patent 6,766,304 B2
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` Telephonic Conference Call
` Before the Patent Trial And Appeal Board
` Washington, D.C.
` Tuesday, March 3, 2015
` 10:00 a.m.
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`Reported by: Donna Ann Peterson
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`TRADING TECH EXHIBIT 2005
`CQG & CQGT v. Trading Technologies
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` ADMINISTRATIVE PATENT JUDGE MEREDITH C.
` PETRAVICK
` ADMINISTRATIVE PATENT JUDGE SALLY C. MEDLEY
` ADMINISTRATIVE PATENT JUDGE JON B. TORNQUIST
` PATENT TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD
` UNITED STATES PATENT AND TRADEMARK OFFICE
` 600 Dulaney Street
` Alexandria, Virginia 22314-5796
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` ON BEHALF OF PETITIONER, CQG, INC., and
` CQGT, LLC:
` WILLIAM J. KRAMER, ATTORNEY at LAW
` LOEB & LOEB, LLP
` Suite 2300
` 321 North Clark Street
` Chicago, Illinois 60654
` Telephone: (312) 464-3100
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` ON BEHALF OF PATENT OWNER, TRADING TECHNOLOGIES
` INTERNATIONAL, INC.:
` JOSHUA L. GOLDBERG, ATTORNEY at LAW
` FINNEGAN, HENDERSON, FARABOW,
` GARRETT & DUNNER, LLP
` 901 New York Avenue, N.W.
` Washington, D.C. 20001-4413
` Telephone: (202) 408-4000
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` ON BEHALF OF PATENT OWNER, TRADING TECHNOLOGIES
` INTERNATIONAL, INC.:
` CORY C. BELL, ATTORNEY at LAW
` FINNEGAN, HENDERSON, FARABOW,
` GARRETT & DUNNER, LLP
` Two Seaport Lane
` Boston, Massachusetts 02210-2001
` Telephone: (617) 646-1600
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` ON BEHALF OF PATENT OWNER, TRADING TECHNOLOGIES
` INTERNATIONAL, INC.:
` ADAM J. FAIER, ATTORNEY at LAW
` TRADING TECHNOLOGIES INTERNATIONAL, INC.
` Suite 1100
` 222 South Riverside Plaza
` Chicago, Illinois 60606
` Telephone: (312) 476-1000
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` JUDGE PETRAVICK: This is Judge Petravick.
`With me on the phone are Judges Medley and
`Tornquist.
` We're here for CBM2015-00057 and '58.
`Could I know who's on the line from the parties?
` For Patent Owner?
` MR. GOLDBERG: Good morning, Your Honor.
` This is Joshua Goldberg, for Patent Owner.
`With me, I have my colleague, Cory Bell and, also,
`Adam Faier, from our client, Trading Technologies.
` JUDGE PETRAVICK: For Petitioner?
` MR. KRAMER: This is Bill Kramer, on
`behalf of CQG.
` JUDGE PETRAVICK: Is there anybody else on
`the line?
` MR. GOLDBERG: We do have a court
`reporter, Your Honor.
` JUDGE PETRAVICK: Thank you.
` Okay. Patent Owner, you requested the
`call?
` MR. GOLDBERG: Yes. So as recognized by
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`this Board's presidential decision and secured by the
`Cardinal Commerce, 35 USC, 325(a)(1) applies to CBM
`proceedings. And that statute thus prohibits
`institution of a CBM if a petitioner or a real party
`in interest filed a civil action challenging the
`validity of the claim of a patent. CQGT filed such
`an action, challenging the '132 and '304 patents at
`issue in these proceedings, so Patent Owner requests
`authorization to file a motion to dismiss the
`proceedings, in order to avoid unnecessarily wasting
`resources and preparing full-blown preliminary
`responses addressing the substance of CQG's
`petitions.
` As set forth in its petition, CQG's
`position is that its earlier declaratory judgment
`challenging the '132 and '304 patents does not bar
`institution of these proceedings because it was
`dismissed without prejudice. We disagree. Although
`the board has recognized that actions dismissed
`without prejudice are excepted from the prohibition
`of USC 325(a)(1) in certain circumstances, CQG's
`declaratory judgment action is not excepted because
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`its dismissal did not make it as though the
`declaratory judgment action never existed.
` Rather, as explained in further detail in
`the mandatory notices that we filed on January 16th,
`2015 -- this is paper six in both proceedings, the
`declaratory judgment action was effectively
`consolidated into another action in the Northern
`District of Illinois, and that action is actually in
`trial in Chicago as we speak.
` Accordingly, the claim set forth in the
`declaratory judgment action continued and it did not
`cease to exist, and similar circumstances were
`addressed in the Apple v. Rensselaer Polytechnic
`Institute case that's IPR2014-00319, paper 12. And
`this board found that the complaint in that case
`could not be treated as if it never existed. The
`board should find the same way here and dismiss these
`CBM's.
` So, again, that's why we requested this
`call and we are requesting permission to file motions
`to dismiss the proceedings.
` JUDGE PETRAVICK: All right. We'll hear
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`from Petitioner now.
` MR. KRAMER: This is Bill Kramer, again,
`on behalf of CQG.
` And as TT recognizes, courts have found
`that if a case is dismissed without prejudice, it
`exists as if it was never filed. In that case, it's
`as if CQG never filed a declaratory judgment and
`they're not barred from filing this petition. In the
`case of Apple, it was specifically consolidated and,
`in this case, CQG's case in Colorado was specifically
`dismissed, and to say it was effectively consolidated
`doesn't really mirror the facts.
` As an example, the petition -- or the suit
`filed in Colorado does not mirror the defenses that
`were raised in the case in Chicago. In effect, if
`there was a consolidation or merger, then those
`claims would be identical, and that's not the case
`here.
` Further, the plain language of the Order
`of the court says it was dismissed and, as opposed to
`the case in Apple, where the cases were consolidated.
`Therefore, CQG feels it has every right to continue
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`with these CBM's, similar to the many other opinions
`where preliminary -- where declaratory judgment
`actions were dismissed without prejudice.
` JUDGE PETRAVICK: Okay.
` MR. GOLDBERG: Your Honor, can I speak to
`that just for one moment?
` JUDGE PETRAVICK: Yes.
` MR. GOLDBERG: So, first, I just want to
`note that CQG had actually proposed to consolidate
`the transferred Colorado declaratory judgment action
`with the Illinois infringement action by dismissing
`the transferred Colorado declaratory judgment action
`without prejudice and providing CQG with leave to
`file an amended answer in the Illinois infringement
`action, and that's exactly what the Illinois court
`ended up doing. So that's why we say that
`effectively this was just a consolidation.
` And beyond that, this -- to the extent
`that CQG is now taking a position that there were
`different defenses existing in the Illinois action,
`that's just because there were -- there were other
`things going on there. That doesn't mean that this,
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`that all the stuff in the original proceeding didn't
`end up flowing over to, as we said, effectively be a
`consolidation.
` JUDGE PETRAVICK: Okay. So --
` MR. KRAMER: May I speak in response,
`briefly?
` JUDGE PETRAVICK: Well, I have two
`questions, first.
` MR. KRAMER: Okay.
` JUDGE PETRAVICK: Patent Owner, why do you
`need a separate paper or motion to address this
`issue? Why can't you address this issue in your
`preliminary responses?
` MR. GOLDBERG: Well, of course, Your
`Honor, we could address it in our preliminary
`response. We would like to do the separate paper
`earlier on, like this, because as Your Honor's aware,
`we're already currently involved in many other
`proceedings involving these patents with TD
`Ameritrade and, you know, we've been spending tons of
`resources on those. And to the extent that it's
`possible to cut these off earlier on this one simple
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`issue, we would like to do that, just to avoid having
`to invest huge sums of money to, in our preliminary
`response, not only address this issue, but also
`address the substance of the argument set forth
`regarding Section 101 and 112, arguments that I'll
`note are currently in dispute in the trial in
`Chicago.
` JUDGE PETRAVICK: Well, your preliminary
`response is due at any time now up till May 6th. Why
`can't you just file it, file it early, if that's your
`concern?
` MR. GOLDBERG: Well, again, I mean, our
`concern would just be that if -- if we file a
`full-blown preliminary response, we're going to not
`only address this particular issue about the
`propriety of the filing of the CBM's in the first
`place, but we will also be addressing many other
`issues directed to the substance of the 101 and 112
`arguments. And, for that reason, it would be much
`more expensive for us to file a full-blown
`preliminary response.
` JUDGE PETRAVICK: Okay. My last question
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`is that you said it was effectively a consolidation.
`But the parties in the court proceeding agreed to the
`dismissal without prejudice, is that correct? Is
`that fact correct?
` MR. GOLDBERG: To my understanding, that
`is -- that is correct. And the agreement was based
`on the parties' understanding that the whole point of
`doing this was to, in effect, consolidate the
`transferred -- the Colorado action into the Illinois
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` JUDGE PETRAVICK: Okay. Petitioner, you
`have one more minute to say whatever you would like
`to say.
` MR. KRAMER: Sure. I was just going
`address that, you know, there was a proposal given to
`Judge Moran to sign an order. Judge Moran didn't
`sign it. He drafted his own that said the cases are
`dismissed, and, you know, that is what has been
`entered in the record. And, you know, the proposal
`that was mentioned by TT was not approved and wasn't
`signed by the court. They issued their own, which
`said the case is dismissed without prejudice.
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` JUDGE PETRAVICK: Okay.
` MR. KRAMER: And we agree with the court,
`the way to resolve this is to file a preliminary
`answer.
` JUDGE PETRAVICK: Thank you.
` I'm going to put you on mute while I
`consult with my panel. Please hold.
` (The call was muted.)
` JUDGE PETRAVICK: Hello? The panel has
`returned.
` Are both counsel still present?
` MR. GOLDBERG: Yes, Your Honor, counsel
`for Patent Owner is here.
` MR. KRAMER: Counsel for Petitioner is on
`the line.
` JUDGE PETRAVICK: All right. The panel
`has discussed the issue and we are going to deny your
`request to file a motion to dismiss. You are free to
`add these arguments into your preliminary response,
`and we will consider them at that time.
` Patent Owner, I believe you arranged for
`the court reporter?
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` MR. GOLDBERG: Yes.
` JUDGE PETRAVICK: Could you, please, file
`the transcript in the case?
` MR. GOLDBERG: Yes.
` Your Honor, would you like that filed
`right away or can we just file that with our
`preliminary response?
` JUDGE PETRAVICK: If you could file it as
`soon as possible.
` MR. GOLDBERG: Okay.
` JUDGE PETRAVICK: We don't intend to issue
`an order in this case, denying your response, and the
`transcript would be our record.
` Is that acceptable to both parties?
` MR. KRAMER: That's acceptable to CQG.
` MR. GOLDBERG: That's acceptable to Patent
`Owner, as well.
` JUDGE PETRAVICK: Thank you.
` MR. GOLDBERG: We'll go ahead and get it
`on file, as soon as we get it finalized up.
` JUDGE PETRAVICK: I appreciate that.
`Thank you.
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` MR. GOLDBERG: Thank you, Your Honor.
` MR. KRAMER: Thank you.
` JUDGE PETRAVICK: Bye-bye.
` MR. KRAMER: Bye.
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`CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER
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`I, Donna Ann Peterson, Notary Public in
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`and for Washington, District of Columbia,
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`the officer
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`before whom the proceedings were taken, do hereby
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`certify that the foregoing transcript is a true and
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`accurate record of these proceedings,
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`that said
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`proceedings were taken in Stenotype note by me on the
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`3rd day of March, 2315, commencing at lO o'clock
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`a.m., and ending at 10:13 a.m.
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`I further certify that present on behalf
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`of Petitioner, CQG,
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`Inc., and CQGT, LLC, was William
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`J. Kramer, Attorney at Law, of Loeb & Loeb, LLP,
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`Suite 2300, 321 North Clark Street, Chicago,
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`Illinois, and on behalf of Patent Owner, Trading
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`Technologies International, Inc., were Joshua L.
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`Goldberg, Attorney at Law, of Finnegan, Henderson,
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`Farabow, Garrett
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`& Dunner, LLP, 901 New York Avenue,
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`N.W., Washington, D.C., and Cory C. Bell, Attorney at
`Law, of Finnegan, Henderson, Farabow, Garrett &
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`and Adam Faier, Attorney at Law, of Trading
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