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` BEFORE THE PATENT TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD
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`SAMSUNG, CBM2014-00190
` CBM2014-00192
` Petitioner, CBM2014-00193
` CBM2014-00194
` -against-
`SMARTFLASH LLC,
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`APPLE, INC., CBM2015-00117
` CBM2015-00118
` Petitioner, CBM2015-00119
` CBM2015-00120
` -against-
`SMARTFLASH LLC,
` Patent Owner.
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` May 4, 2015
` 3:02 p.m.
` TELEPHONIC CONFERENCE
`B E F O R E:
` HON. RAMA G. ELLURU
` HON. JENNIFER S. BISK
` HON. MATTHEW R. CLEMENTS
` HON. GREGG I. ANDERSON
` HON. PETER P. CHEN
` Administrative Patent Judges
`Reported by:
`Jennifer Ocampo-Guzman, CRR, CLR
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`A P P E A R A N C E S:
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` For Petitioner Apple:
` ROPES & GRAY, LLP
` 700 12th Street N.W.
` One Metro Center
` Washington, DC 2005-3948
` (202) 508-4600
` BY: J. STEVEN BAUGHMAN, ESQ.
` Steven.Baughman@ropesgray.com
` CHING-LEE FUKUDA, ESQ. (New York)
` Ching-Lee.Fukuda@ropesgray.com
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` For Petitioner Samsung:
` FISH & RICHARDSON
` 1425 K Street
` Washington, DC 20005
` (202) 626-6447
` BY: W. KARL RENNER, ESQ.
` renner@fr.com
` THOMAS ROZYLOWICZ, ESQ.
` rozylowicz@fr.com
` ANDREW B. PATRICK, ESQ.
` patrick@fr.com
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` For the Patent Owner Smartflash:
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` BY: MICHAEL R. CASEY, ESQ.
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` JUDGE ELLURU: Good afternoon, this
` is Judge Elluru. I have Judges
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` in CBM2014-00190, 192, 193, 194, Samsung
` against Smartflash; as well as
` CBM-2015-00117, 118, 119 and 120, Apple
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` Do we have counsel for Apple
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` MR. BAUGHMAN: Yes, Your Honor.
` Steve Baughman from Ropes & Gray and
` with me is Ching-Lee Fukuda.
` JUDGE ELLURU: And do you expect
` anyone else today?
` MR. BAUGHMAN: No one else but
` Steve, Your Honor.
` JUDGE ELLURU: And do we have the
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` MR. CASEY: The patent owner and
` the court reporter, Your Honor.
` JUDGE ELLURU: And is counsel for
` Samsung then on the call as well?
` MR. RENNER: Certainly. This is
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` JUDGE ELLURU: And Mr. Renner, do
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` MR. RENNER: We don't, thank you.
` JUDGE ELLURU: And finally, can we
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` MR. CASEY: Yes, Your Honor. This
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` JUDGE ELLURU: And do you expect
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` MR. CASEY: No, Your Honor.
` JUDGE ELLURU: And I assume you
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` MR. CASEY: We do, yes.
` JUDGE ELLURU: We do order that
` patent owners file transcript of this
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` Samsung, as well as Apple cases, that I
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` JUDGE ELLURU: That's fine. In
` this instance, that's fine.
` It is our understanding that Apple
` requested this call to discuss timing,
` or scheduling in the CBM2015 cases that
` I identified earlier.
` With that, Mr. Baughman, could you
` please take the floor?
` MR. BAUGHMAN: Thanks, Your Honor,
` yes.
` This is a request for a call,
` before we had filed the CBM2015-17, 18,
` 19 and 20 proceedings to advise the
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` follow-on petitions that were copies of
` the substantive argumentative of Samsung
` with respect to institute a 101 grounds
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` First, the time of a preliminary
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` owner determines that it's necessary,
` given that the arguments and evidence
` are the same, it's my understanding, and
` I'm sure we will hear from patent owner,
` that patent owner does intend to file a
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` suggest that it would be appropriate to
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` response in the Samsung proceeding to
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` JUDGE ELLURU: So Mr. Baughman,
` it's my understanding that you're
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` preliminary response as well as its
` opposition to the motion for
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` MR. BAUGHMAN: Yes, Your Honor.
` JUDGE ELLURU: Mr. Casey, would you
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` MR. CASEY: Yes, Your Honor.
` Patent owner would expect to file a
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` To put things in perspective,
` patent owner received the original paper
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` to get on to the RPS system and download
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` JUDGE ELLURU: Mr. Casey, wouldn't
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` instituted in any event, so why should
` that affect the schedule as to whether
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` MR. CASEY: Because it may affect,
` Your Honor, whether or not you believe
` the argument of the petitioner that
` preemption is, preemption does exist.
` To the extent that the petitioner has
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` routine discovery or additional
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` recommendation indicated that defendants
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` configurations that could be used
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` that there is not preemption as
` petitioner is now proposing.
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` taken this, the contrary position, the
` contrary position, this does seem to be
` the time to obtain that evidence prior
` to institution to avoid the cost of
` instituting the trial.
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` JUDGE ELLURU: Mr. Baughman, would
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` MR. BAUGHMAN: If I may, Your
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` First, just to note that we did
` serve copies as well, both by courier
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` I'm sorry, on Saturday but was unable to
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` MR. BAUGHMAN: I will, Your Honor,
` I'm sorry.
` I understand trial is already
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` we're trying to join that trial. I
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` manner that doesn't infringe, that
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` section 101. So we don't plan to --
` that it is contrary information and we
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` determine whether there is some material
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` agree to produce just to avoid the
` dispute. We haven't had a chance yet to
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` JUDGE ELLURU: And so it's my
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` the motion for 325(c) consolidation?
` MR. CASEY: We're going to -- yes,
` we will oppose the motion under 325(c)
` and indicate that the board should
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` Is counsel for Apple present?
` MR. BAUGHMAN: Yes, Your Honor.
` JUDGE ELLURU: And counsel for
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` MR. RENNER: Yes, Your Honor.
` JUDGE ELLURU: And counsel for
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` MR. CASEY: Yes, Your Honor.
` JUDGE ELLURU: The panel has
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` preliminary response in this case. It
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` JUDGE ELLURU: And we also wanted
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` JUDGE ELLURU: We will give you
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` MR. RENNER: No, Your Honor. Thank
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` JUDGE ELLURU: And lastly, Mr.
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`450 Seventh Avenue - Ste 500, New York, NY 10123 1.800.642.1099
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`25
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`report 12:9
`Reported
`1:20
`reporter 4:20
`4:22 5:18
`request 5:18
`6:18 13:25
`15:22
`requested
`6:11
`requesting
`9:7 10:5
`required 15:6
`respect 6:24
`respond 9:14
`13:11 15:22
`18:15
`response 7:9
`7:15 8:4,8
`8:10,19 9:8
`9:16,19
`11:24 12:3
`16:4,6
`17:17
`responses
`11:8 14:3
`20:25
`resultant
`15:14
`RICHARD...
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`right 16:24
`rights 13:4
`Ropes 2:5
`4:13
`routine 10:6
`10:25 11:22
`13:5,24
`Rozylowicz
`2:22 5:3
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`2:23
`RPS 9:23
`ruled 10:12
`ruling 10:14
`rush 20:7
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`Samsung 1:3
`2:15 4:6,24
`5:24 6:23
`8:19 9:3
`13:2 14:9
`17:10,23,23
`18:2,9
`20:14
`Samsung's
`10:11 19:18
`Saturday
`13:18 17:20
`schedule 7:2
`7:24 11:6
`20:4,9,11
`scheduling
`6:12 7:6
`11:7,24
`second 14:14
`18:18
`section 15:2
`15:15
`separate
`18:14
`series 12:4
`20:22
`serve 13:15
`set 7:17 22:19
`seven 19:14
`short 10:21
`shortened
`16:4,5
`shortly 8:18
`Smartflash
`1:6,11 3:4
`4:7,9 5:8
`9:7 17:13
`18:15
`sorry 13:18
`14:7
`sought 18:17
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