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` BEFORE THE PATENT TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD
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`PNC BANK, N.A. AND JP MORGAN ) CBM2014-00038
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`CHASE & CO. and CHASE BANK, ) CBM2014-00039
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`N.A.,
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`) CBM2014-00040 and
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`Petitioners, ) CBM2014-00041
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`vs.
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`MAXIM INTEGRATED PRODUCTS, ) Patents 5,940,510,
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`INC,
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`) 5,949,880,
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`Patent Owners. ) 6,105,013 and
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`------------------------------ 6,237,095
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`TELEPHONE CONFERENCE CALL
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`Wednesday, March 27, 2014
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`Reported by:
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`CLAUDIA REYES
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`CSR No. 12812
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`Job No: 1837584
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` UNITED STATES PATENT AND TRADEMARK OFFICE
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` BEFORE THE PATENT TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD
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`------------------------------ Case No.
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`PNC BANK, N.A. AND JP MORGAN ) CBM2014-00038
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`CHASE & CO. and CHASE BANK, ) CBM2014-00039
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`N.A., ) CBM2014-00040 and
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` Petitioners, ) CBM2014-00041
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`MAXIM INTEGRATED PRODUCTS, ) Patents 5,940,510,
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`INC, ) 5,949,880,
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` Patent Owners. ) 6,105,013 and
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`------------------------------ 6,237,095
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` Telephone Conference Call beginning at
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`March 27, 2014, before CLAUDIA REYES, Certified
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`Shorthand Reporter Number 12812.
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`APPEARANCES:
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`For the Panel:
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` Mitchell G. Weatherly
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`For the Petitioners:
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` FINNEGAN, HENDERSON, FARABOW, GARRETT & DUNNER
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` BY: LIONEL M. LAVENUE, ESQ.
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` Two Freedom Square
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` lionel.lavenue@finnegan.com
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`For the Patent Owner:
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` GOLDBERG, LOWENSTEIN & WEATHERWAX
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` BY: KENNETH WEATHERWAX, ESQ.
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` weatherwax@glwllp.com
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` Wednesday, March 27, 2014
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` JUDGE MEDLEY: Good morning.
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` MR. LAVENUE: Thank you, Your Honor. This is
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`Lionel Lavenue for the petitioners. Also with me on
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`the phone are Cory Bell and Josh Goldberg.
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` JUDGE MEDLEY: Okay. Thank you.
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` MR. WEATHERWAX: For patent -- I'm sorry.
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` JUDGE MEDLEY: Go ahead.
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` MR. WEATHERWAX: For patent owner -- I
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`apologize.
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` JUDGE MEDLEY: Yes. I'm sorry. Go ahead.
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` MR. WEATHERWAX: This is for patent owner.
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`This is Kenneth Weatherwax and Parham Hendifar.
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`They're primary backup counsel. Also on the line for
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`patent owner are Stephanie Smith. And there's also a
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`court reporter on the line.
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` THE REPORTER: Yes. Claudia Reyes.
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` JUDGE MEDLEY: Thank you.
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` MR. HONG: And Dom Chang Hong for --
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`co-counsel for petitioner.
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` JUDGE MEDLEY: Okay.
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` MR. HANSON: And Eric Hanson and Patrick
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`Maloney with Goldberg, Lowenstein & Weatherwax for
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`patent owner.
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` JUDGE MEDLEY: Okay. So this is in regards
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`to CBM2014-00038, -39, -40, and -41.
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`this call. But that also the patent owner has an
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`issue too. So we'll begin with the petitioner.
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` MR. LAVENUE: Thank you, Your Honors. This
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`is Lionel Lavenue from Finnegan for the petitioner for
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`both PNC Bank and JP Morgan Bank. In this -- in these
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`particular series of CBM petitions, we filed these on
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`behalf PNC Bank with the understanding that the AIA,
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`Section 1881, was not clear if DJ plaintiffs were able
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`to file CBM.
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`for DJ plaintiffs to file a CBM under 37CFR42-302A and
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`also comments at 77 Federal Register 48693. And also
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`in the SAT case, CBM2013-13, a DJ plaintiff was
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`allowed to file CBM.
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` So that's why we had both PNC Bank and
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`JP Morgan, which had not filed a DJ complaint, both
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`together filed these -- these four CBM petitions. And
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`that's why PNC Bank felt that it could do so.
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` We do note that in recent decision, in the
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`BB&T Bank case, CBM2013-59, the board rejected the CBM
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`petition by BB&T Bank because they were a DJ
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`plaintiff.
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` And so at this point, what we would like to
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`do for PNC Bank is to withdraw pursuant to
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`37CFR42-73D.
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` And the reason that we believe that we're
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`entitled to do so is consistent with the Board's
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`recent ruling in Fandango, which is CBM2014-13,
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`paper 22 at 8, where the Board noted that there are
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`two bases for a party in a petition with multiple
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`parties in a single petition to withdraw.
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` And the two options for a party to withdraw
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`are, number one, to remove under 37CFR42-73. And
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`that's what we're seeking to do.
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` The second is to withdraw pursuant to a joint
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`motion to terminate for settlement. We will note,
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`Your Honors, that we have reached settlement terms on
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`behalf of PNC Bank, but the settlement agreement is
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`not signed.
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` So because of that, and because of an
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`objection by the patent owner, we are not seeking, at
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`this time, to pursue the joint motion to terminate
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`settlement. But instead are seeking to withdraw
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`pursuant to CFR rules for abandonment of contest.
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` We note that in the Fandango case there
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`were 27 -- 25-plus parties in that case. And one of
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`the parties, Apple wanted to actually withdraw,
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`re-file, and then be guaranteed a rejoinder to that
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`case.
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` And the Board -- the reason they wanted to do
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`that is they wanted to have their own lead counsel.
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`with the others, as explained in paper 22.
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` The Board noted that Apple had two options to
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`withdraw, either to withdraw with the abandonment of
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`contest under the CFR rule or to settle. And those
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`were the only two options available. They certainly
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`could not withdraw conditionally with the Board giving
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`would allow them to rejoin.
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` And so that's exactly what we're seeking here
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`is to actually abandon on behalf of PNC Bank. But of
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`course, to maintain our petition with respect to
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`JP Morgan.
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` JUDGE MEDLEY: Okay. All right. Thank you.
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` So I'd like to hear from the patent owner at
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`this point. Sounds like they want to file a motion
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`for request for adverse judgment against themselves --
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`I'm sorry -- against PNC, but not JP Morgan --
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` MR. WEATHERWAX: I'm sorry. If I may correct
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`you, Judge Medley. First of all, we weren't convinced
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`that it was time to have a call. But we wanted to
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`discuss at the time a possible motion to expedite
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`judgment on whether to initiate --
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` JUDGE MEDLEY: Yeah. That's a separate issue
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`though, I think. We're talking about the first issue.
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`They want to file -- at least with respect to PNC,
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`they want to file a motion to withdraw on the basis
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`that they are requesting adverse judgment. And so --
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` MR. WEATHERWAX: Okay.
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` JUDGE MEDLEY: -- what I'm asking you is
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`whether or not you would oppose that motion.
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` MR. WEATHERWAX: So -- we would oppose to
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`join such a motion or not oppose it. We do oppose it.
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`I was not obviously privy to the arguments that were
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`presented just now by petitioner.
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` JUDGE MEDLEY: Okay. That's fine.
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` MR. WEATHERWAX: So I'm not in a position to
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`respond at this time to that.
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` JUDGE MEDLEY: Okay. I just wanted to know
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`if you would oppose. They really don't -- I think the
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`panel doesn't want to get into the merits of this
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`right now on the call.
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` MR. WEATHERWAX: I agree.
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` JUDGE MEDLEY: I think what we want to do is
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`I think what we're thinking is that we would like
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`set aside some time for an opposition. And it sounds
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` MR. WEATHERWAX: That's right.
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` JUDGE MEDLEY: Okay. All right. Great.
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` As I said, we don't want to discuss the
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`merits on this call. I think we would authorize the
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`petitioner to file such a motion. And I'm thinking
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`that you would -- you would only need five pages. And
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`we were hoping that you could get this in by Monday.
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`So I'll ask petitioner if that's possible.
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` MR. LAVENUE: By Monday is possible. By
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`Wednesday, would be better if that would be possible,
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`Your Honors.
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` JUDGE MEDLEY: Okay. Well --
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` MR. WEATHERWAX: If I may -- I apologize for
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`interrupting you, Judge Medley -- we would prefer the
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`earlier date. There is some pending stay motion
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`practice in the litigation. It would be better to try
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`to clear it up earlier.
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` JUDGE MEDLEY: Right. We understand that
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`there's that tension to move things along quickly and
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`petitioner wants to at least get out with respect to
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`one petitioner. So --
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` MR. WEATHERWAX: I'm not trying to squeeze
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`petitioner. So in other words, perhaps Tuesday or
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` JUDGE MEDLEY: Okay.
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` MR. WEATHERWAX: I'm not trying to push. I'm
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`not trying to push.
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` JUDGE MEDLEY: Okay. I understand.
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` All right. So we do appreciate that the time
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`is ticking, not only for everybody involved, but
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`certainly for the Board because we had the preliminary
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`responses from the patent owner.
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` And as you know, we have to meet our
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`statutory obligation to get these -- a decision out
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`within three months from when we receive those. So we
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`would want to get briefing fairly quickly.
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`motion on Tuesday, we'd then want the opposition by
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`Friday. And then possibly a short reply the following
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`Monday or something like that.
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` So that's what we're thinking, but, of
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`course, we'll memorialize that in an order.
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` MR. WEATHERWAX: I'm sorry. This is patent
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`owner. And may I just raise a couple points or I
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`guess I'd call them objections.
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` Well, one possibility is, could we have --
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`we'd prefer there should be just two rounds. We think
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`that would be more in keeping with the way the
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`preliminary proceeding goes. There's no replies
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`before the initiation decision. And we would think
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`that it might move faster if there's just two rounds,
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`just the motion and then our response. And that's it.
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` JUDGE MEDLEY: I was just going to say, yes,
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`I appreciate and understand. But this isn't the
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`typical, they want to reply to your preliminary
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`response. This is a separate briefing. It's a
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` MR. WEATHERWAX: Okay.
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` JUDGE MEDLEY: And typically, the Board would
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`a one- or two-page reply. I wouldn't think that they
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`would have anything that they haven't already said in
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`their motion.
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` So having said that, you know, we can
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`consider, if we get the opposition, we may not even
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`need a reply. So -- but we would possibly set out a
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`schedule, an order, for all three papers --
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` MR. WEATHERWAX: Thank you, Judge Medley.
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` JUDGE MEDLEY: -- or if we can go on next to
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`patent owners request that they would like to expedite
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`a decision on the petition --
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` MR. WEATHERWAX: We have decided that it
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`would not be appropriate to ask for permission to do
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`that at this time. So we would not ask that at this
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` JUDGE MEDLEY: Okay. You're withdrawing that
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`request. Great.
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` Is there anything else for the conference
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` MR. LAVENUE: Your Honors, nothing further
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`from the petitioners.
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` JUDGE MEDLEY: Great. How about patent
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`owner?
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` MR. WEATHERWAX: Nothing further. We
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`appreciate it.
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` JUDGE MEDLEY: Okay. Great.
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` Well, we appreciate the call. And we will
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`send out an order shortly setting the scheduling for
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`the motion briefing on withdrawal.
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` Thank you very much. And have a nice day.
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` C E R T I F I C A T E
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` I, the undersigned, a Certified Shorthand
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`Reporter of the State of California, do hereby
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`certify;
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` That the foregoing proceedings were taken
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`before me at the time herein set forth; that a record
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`of the proceedings was made by me using machine
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`shorthand which was thereafter transcribed under my
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`direction; that the foregoing transcript is a true
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`record of the proceedings.
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` I further certify I am neither financially
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`interested in the action nor a relative or employee or
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`any attorney or any party to this action.
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` IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have this date
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`subscribed my name.
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`Dated: April 3, 2014
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` ____________________________
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` CLAUDIA REYES, CSR No. 12812
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