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` MR. GRIFFITH: Your Honor, Cal
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`Griffith with Jones Day, along with my
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`we notified the Board that we would have a
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`reporter here as well, Mr. Todd Persson.
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` JUDGE LEE: Representing Liberty
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`Mutual?
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` MR. GRIFFITH: I'm sorry, Your
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`Honor. We represent the Progressive Casualty 14:32:08
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` MR. BAUGHMAN: Your Honor, Steve
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` JUDGE LEE: The court reporter is
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`fine. Thank you. Will we be getting a copy of
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`the transcript, I hope?
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` MR. GRIFFITH: Surely, I hope.
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` JUDGE LEE: And you'll provide one 14:32:31
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`to the other side?
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` MR. GRIFFITH: Yes.
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` JUDGE LEE: Thank you. And
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`Progressive asked for this call?
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` MR. GRIFFITH: Yes, Your Honor. 14:32:38
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`This is Cal Griffith speaking. The issue that
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`brings us here today involves, at our request,
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`four CBMs, specifically 2012-2, -3 and -4, as
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`well as CBM 2013-9.
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` Your Honor, the same issues are 14:33:00
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`2013-4, relating to yet another of the
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` Now, one of the issues that we
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`But the other replies were not properly
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`formatted. But we resolved that issue, and
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`basically Liberty offered to file a reformatted
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` Progressive, in view of all things
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` JUDGE LEE: Wonderful. So this 14:34:48
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`call is really about five cases then, including
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`the 2013-00004 dec?
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` MR. GRIFFITH: That's correct, Your
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` JUDGE LEE: Can I interrupt you?
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` MR. GRIFFITH: Yes, Your Honor.
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` JUDGE LEE: You know, usually we
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`of the prima facie case. But here we've
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` MR. GRIFFITH: Your Honor, thank 14:38:16
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`you for that. And I appreciate the warning, if
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` I would like to discuss some of the
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`bearing in mind Your Honor's comments. But
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`or consideration is going to apply here --
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` JUDGE LEE: No. That's not true.
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`It's not a blanket rule like that. It could
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`it's automatically out of bounds in the reply. 14:39:47
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`That's not the case. If the motion sets out a
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`that they could have put in that evidence. 14:40:07
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`Because we went your route, there's no limit.
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`You know, then the Petitioner or the movant
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`have with this particular evidence, so that at
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` In two of the CBMs, CBM 2012-3 and
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`a second, she didn't do a declaration in that
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` JUDGE LEE: I'm sorry, so were you 14:43:22
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`able to cross-examine Ms. O'Neil after the
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` MR. GRIFFITH: Well, we have -- I
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` JUDGE LEE: Yeah. But let me
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` MR. GRIFFITH: Your Honor, I
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`view of testimony, then the issue would be
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` JUDGE LEE: Well, it's really
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` MR. GRIFFITH: That may be helpful,
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` JUDGE LEE: Well, if you have the
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` JUDGE LEE: Now, it's not your
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` JUDGE LEE: Well, you know, we're
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` MR. BAUGHMAN: Your Honor, Steve
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` JUDGE LEE: Wonderful. Now, and
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` JUDGE LEE: So that would be the
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` MR. GRIFFITH: Yes, Your Honor. 14:55:01
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` MR. BAUGHMAN: Mr. Griffith -- this
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` MR. GRIFFITH: I had it down --
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` MR. GRIFFITH: Yes.
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`Baughman for Petitioner, Your Honor. One was
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` JUDGE LEE: Yeah. If you really
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` MR. GRIFFITH: Well, that's
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` MR. GRIFFITH: Yes, Your Honor. 14:56:35
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` MR. BAUGHMAN: Yes, Your Honor.
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` JUDGE LEE: Dates 4 through 6, and
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` MR. BAUGHMAN: And I believe that
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` JUDGE LEE: According to what I'm
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` MR. BAUGHMAN: I believe we had a
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` JUDGE LEE: Oh, I see. Okay.
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`We'll keep them together. Sure. So if the 14:57:24
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` MR. BAUGHMAN: Thanks, Your Honor.
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` JUDGE LEE: Are you finished,
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` MR. GRIFFITH: I am, Your Honor.
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` JUDGE LEE: Well, that's good. So
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` MR. BAUGHMAN: Thanks, Your Honor.
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` JUDGE LEE: Thank you.
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`13:13,18 14:10
`15:22 16:24 17:9
`18:1,2,7,18,20
`declarants 10:10,19
`14:22
`declaration 6:18,20
`6:20 11:1,3,15
`
`13:15,25 18:21
`declarations 6:17
`8:14,21,22 10:9,20
`11:17 12:2 14:11,19
`15:5 19:15
`decs 14:12 15:4,4
`definitely 13:23
`depend 17:20
`deposed 11:8
`deposition 10:22,24
`11:5 12:7,12 16:6,8
`16:10 19:17,18
`deprive 13:19
`described 12:16
`detail 5:18
`determined 14:17
`different 14:20 16:3
`16:3 17:2
`difficult 15:23
`disagree 19:14
`discovery 12:12
`discuss 9:6 16:15
`discusses 19:8
`discussions 19:21
`disposal 10:11 13:25
`doing 17:11
`due 16:25 17:2
`21:18
`
`e
`earlier 15:13 16:5
`18:20 19:17
`earliest 15:14 20:4
`effort 18:6
`either 13:17 18:2
`elaborate 19:19
`entering 4:14
`entitled 8:13
`esq 2:6,15,16,17
`essentially 11:15
`established 7:9
`evidence 5:12,13
`6:23,25 7:5,24 8:17
`9:7,17,18 10:5,9,16
`12:13
`
`examination 12:23
`13:21 15:25 16:23
`examine 12:1,20
`13:12,18 14:7,9
`15:22 17:9 18:17
`exceptions 9:4
`excited 8:20
`excuse 20:10
`expectations 18:15
`experts 11:20
`expires 23:21
`explains 12:8
`explore 14:6
`expressly 12:24
`extended 18:5
`f
`facie 7:12 8:1,4 9:18
`10:2
`facilitate 16:18
`fact 5:23 8:21
`factor 11:12,19
`fairly 6:24
`f