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`UNITED STATES PATENT AND TRADEMARK OFFICE
`______________
`BEFORE THE PATENT TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD
`______________
`LIBERTY MUTUAL INSURANCE CO.
`Petitioner
`v.
`PROGRESSIVE CASUALTY INSURANCE CO.
`Patent Owner
`______________
`Case CBM2012-00002
`Patent 6,064,970
`______________
`Before the Honorable JAMESON LEE, JONI Y. CHANG, and MICHAEL R.
`ZECHER, Administrative Patent Judges.
`
`RULE 42.64(b)(2) DECLARATION OF SCOTT ANDREWS ON BEHALF
`OF PETITIONER LIBERTY MUTUAL INSURANCE CO. REGARDING
`U.S. PATENT NO. 6,064,970
`
`I, Scott Andrews, hereby declare under penalty of perjury under the laws of the
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`United States of America:
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`I have previously been asked by Liberty Mutual Insurance (“Liberty”) to testify
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`as an expert witness in this action.
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`I.
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`Prior Testimony
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`1.
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`I am the same Scott Andrews who provided a Declaration in this matter
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`executed on September 15, 2012 as Exhibit 1012, and a Rebuttal Declaration in this
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`matter executed on August 6, 2013 as Exhibit 1019. (My information regarding
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`experience, qualifications, and compensation has been provided along with my prior
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`Declaration, Exhibit 1012, and CV, Exhibit 1013.)
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`
`
`Liberty Mutual Exhibit 1031
`Liberty Mutual v. Progressive
`CBM2012-00002
`Page 00001
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`II. Response to Evidentiary Objections
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`2.
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`I understand an evidentiary objection has been made to Exhibit 1019,
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`asserting that it is hearsay, but in fact it is my sworn expert testimony in the matter.
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`See Patent Owner’s Notice of Objection to Evidence Pursuant to 37 C.F.R. § 42.64, at
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`5.
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`3.
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`I understand that a further evidentiary objection has been made to
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`Exhibit 1019, asserting that it has “no relevant bearing on any issue actually raised in
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`this proceeding.” See Patent Owner’s Notice of Objection to Evidence Pursuant to 37
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`C.F.R. § 42.64, at 2-3. As I stated in my Rebuttal Declaration (Exhibit 1019), I
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`testified in Exhibit 1019 solely to rebut issues actually raised by Patent Owner in its
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`Patent Owner’s Response, including assertions and opinions of Mark Ehsani
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`expressed in his declaration of May 1, 2013 (attached to the Patent Owner’s Response
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`as Exhibit 2016) and certain assertions of Progressive in its Patent Owner’s Response
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`of May 1, 2013. Contrary to Progressive’s evidentiary objection, my testimony was
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`not offered to “raise new theories to support [Liberty’s] invalidity arguments in order
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`to make out a prima facie case of unpatentability of the claims,” which I understand the
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`Board already found to exist in its Institution Decision.
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`4.
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`Furthermore, I understand that an evidentiary objection has been made
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`to Exhibit 1019, asserting that my testimony “could have been elicited during direct
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`examination in the first instance.” See Patent Owner’s Notice of Objection to
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`Evidence Pursuant to 37 C.F.R. § 42.64, at 3-4. In particular, Progressive objects to
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`
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`Page 00002
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`my testimony in paragraph 7 as an “alleged clarification” of my cross-examination
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`testimony. Id. However, as I stated in my declaration, I was not attempting to clarify
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`my testimony. I believe my testimony was quite clear. I was attempting to correct
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`Progressive’s incorrect interpretation of my cross-examination testimony.
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`5.
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`Exhibit 1030, the Declaration of Darrell W. Stark, indicates Exhibit 1020
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`was downloaded from the publisher’s web site (www.ieee.org). I have downloaded
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`the document on July 31, 2013 from the same publisher’s web site (in particular
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`through its digital library at http://ieeexplore.org, which is linked to the publisher’s
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`web site home page), and confirm that it contains identical text to the one filed as
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`Exhibit 1020.
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`
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`Executed this 26th day of August, 2013
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`
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`At: Forestville, CA
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`Scott Andrews
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`Page 00003
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