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`UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,
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` 16 Cr. 91 (PKC)
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` MEMORANDUM AND ORDER
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`SCOTT TUCKER and TIMOTHY MUIR,
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`Defendants.
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`CASTEL, U.S.D.J.
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`Defendants Scott Tucker and Timothy Muir were tried and convicted on all 14
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`counts of the indictment for crimes relating the operation of several payday loan businesses.
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`Crystal Grote testified as a cooperator at the trial of Tucker and Muir and had entered a plea of
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`guilty before this Court to an information charging her with making false statements in a
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`deposition before the Federal Trade Commission (“FTC”). (Minute Entry, Aug. 29, 2017.)
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`Presently, there are no open counts against any defendant.
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`The government now renews its “application for an order finding that the crime
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`fraud exception applies to all documents and communications relating to the preparation of
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`Crystal Grote for her deposition by the [FTC] on or about August 28, 2013.” In denying without
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`prejudice the government’s initial application, the Court wrote “In what context do you ask this
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`Court to adjudicate the question? The Court is not accustomed to deciding questions in the
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`abstract without notice to persons who may be affected.” (Order of Nov. 28, 2017; Doc 313.)
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`The government now writes advising that it “has spoken with all parties it could
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`identify who may be able to assert an attorney-client privilege with respect to the document and
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`communications sought.” (Ltr., Dec. 5, 2017; Doc 314.) Two entities, according to the
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`Case 1:16-cr-00091-PKC Document 315 Filed 12/06/17 Page 2 of 3
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`government, assert that the crime-fraud exception does not apply to the communications; in
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`essence, they oppose the application. Another entity indicated that it did not waive its privilege
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`but “will not” oppose the government’s application. Tucker and Muir advised the government
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`that they do not believe that they have any applicable privilege. The position of Ms. Grote is not
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`stated, although, perhaps, the government assumes that the Court would not expect her to oppose
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`the application because she is a cooperator. No mention is made of any conversation with the
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`custodian of the documents, who, presumably, is the attorney who prepared Ms. Grote for her
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`deposition; that said, the Court is mindful that the privilege at issue belongs to the clients and not
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`to the attorney.
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`Missing from the government’s renewed application is any statement of the
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`context in which it seeks the adjudication. No claim is made that a subpoena has been served
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`and a privilege objection asserted. No claim is made that the unidentified communications are
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`needed to rebut some contention made or expected to be made by Ms. Grote, the government’s
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`cooperator, in the context of her sentencing by this Court. If the documents or testimony are for
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`use in some grand jury matter, the grand jury has a recognized procedure available to it: serve a
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`subpoena and, if a motion to quash is made on the grounds of the attorney-client privilege, then
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`raise the crime-fraud exception before the judge presiding over the grand jury matter. If the
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`documents or testimony are for use in some civil proceeding, then the judge presiding in that
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`proceeding has the power to rule in the context of a motion to compel under Rule 37, Fed. R.
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`Civ. P.
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`The government emphasizes in its November 28 and December 5 submissions
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`that the evidence before this Court supports a finding that there is probable cause to believe that
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`privileged communications surrounding the preparation of Grote for her FTC deposition were in
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`furtherance of the crime to which she pleaded guilty. In re Grand Jury Subpoena Duces Tecum
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`Dated September 15, 1983, 731 F.2d 1032, 1038 (2d Cir. 1984)(standard for crime-fraud
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`exception.) In the context of the government’s pretrial demand for documents in this case, the
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`Court found the crime-fraud exception applicable to documents in the possession of a law firm
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`relating to a sham lawsuit. United States v. Tucker, 254 F. Supp. 3d 620 (S.D.N.Y. 2017). But
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`neither the relative ease with which this Court could make the requested finding nor the
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`government’s satisfaction with the prior ruling supplies this Court with jurisdiction to grant the
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`present application.
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`The question presented on the government’s application has not been shown
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`to arise in the context of any case or controversy over which this Court has jurisdiction.
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`Also, in the absence of a context, the application presents an abstract and hypothetical
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`question. Accordingly, the government’s application is DENIED.
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`SO ORDERED.
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`Dated: New York, New York
` December 6, 2017
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