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`RANDALL ZUSMAN, M.D. - 09/30/2016RANDALL ZUSMAN, M.D. - 09/30/2016
`·1· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · ·Volume: I
`· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · ·Pages: 1-254
`·2· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · ·Exhibits: 1-25
`·3· · · · · · IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
`·4· · · · · ·FOR THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK
`·5· ·* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
`· · ·KOWA COMPANY, LTD., ET AL.,· · · · · ·:
`·6· · · · · · · · · PLAINTIFFS· · · · · · ·:
`· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · ·:
`·7· · v.· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · ·: CIVIL ACTION NO.
`· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · ·: 14-CV-2647(PAC)
`·8· ·MYLAN INC., ET AL.· · · · · · · · · · :
`· · · · · · · · · · DEFENDANTS· · · · · · ·:
`·9· ·* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
`· · ·KOWA COMPANY, LTD., ET AL.· · · · · · :
`10· · · · · · · · · PLAINTIFFS· · · · · · ·:
`· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · ·: CIVIL ACTION NO.
`11· · v.· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · ·: 14-CV-2758 (PAC)
`· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · ·:
`12· ·AMNEAL PHARMACEUTICALS, LLC,· · · · · :
`· · · · · · · · · · DEFENDANT· · · · · · · :
`13· ·* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
`· · ·KOWA COMPANY, LTD., ET AL.· · · · · · :
`14· · · · · · · · · PLAINTIFFS· · · · · · ·:
`· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · ·: CIVIL ACTION NO.
`15· · v.· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · ·: 14-CV-2759 (PAC)
`· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · ·:
`16· ·ORIENT PHARMA CO., LTD.,· · · · · · · :
`· · · · · · · · · · DEFENDANT
`17· ·* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
`· · ·KOWA COMPANY, LTD., ET AL.· · · · · · :
`18· · · · · · · · · PLAINTIFFS· · · · · · ·:
`· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · ·:
`19· · v.· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · ·: CIVIL ACTION NO.
`· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · ·: 14-CV-2760 (PAC)
`20· ·ZYDUS· ·PHARMACEUTICALS (USA) Inc.· · :
`· · ·et al.,· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · ·:
`21· · · · · · · · · DEFENDANTS· · · · · · ·:
`· · ·* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
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`23· · · AUDIO-VISUAL DEPOSITION OF RANDALL ZUSMAN, M.D.
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`· · ·KOWA COMPANY, LTD., ET AL.· · · · · · :
`·3· · · · · · · · · PLAINTIFFS· · · · · · ·:
`· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · ·: CIVIL ACTION NO.
`·4· · v.· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · ·: 14-CV-5575 (PAC)
`· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · ·:
`·5· ·SAWAI USA, Inc., et al.,· · · · · · · :
`· · · · · · · · · · DEFENDANTS· · · · · · ·:
`·6· ·* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
`· · ·KOWA COMPANY, LTD., ET AL.· · · · · · :
`·7· · · · · · · · · PLAINTIFFS· · · · · · ·:
`· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · ·: CIVIL ACTION NO.
`·8· · v.· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · ·: 14-cv-7934 (PAC)
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`·9· ·APOTEX, INC., et al.,· · · · · · · · ·:
`· · · · · · · · · · DEFENDANTS· · · · · · ·:
`10· ·* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
`· · ·KOWA COMPANY, LTD., ET AL.· · · · · · :
`11· · · · · · · · · PLAINTIFFS· · · · · · ·:
`· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · ·: CIVIL ACTION NO.
`12· · v.· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · ·: 15-CV-3935 (PAC)
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`13· ·LUPIN LTD. ET AL.· · · · · · · · · · ·:
`· · · · · · · · · · DEFENDANTS· · · · · · ·:
`14· ·* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
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`16· · · ·AUDIO-VISUAL DEPOSITION OF RANDALL ZUSMAN, M.D., a
`17· ·witness called on behalf of the Plaintiffs, pursuant to the
`18· ·provisions of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, before
`19· ·Lisa McDonald Valdario, (CSR #130093), a Registered
`20· ·Professional Reporter, Certified Realtime Reporter, and
`21· ·Notary Public in and for the Commonwealth of Massachusetts,
`22· ·at the Offices of Locke Lord, LLP, 111 Huntington Avenue,
`23· ·Boston, Massachusetts· 02199, on Friday, September 30,
`24· ·2016, commencing at 9:27 a.m.
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`·1· ·APPEARANCES:
`·2· · · ·MINTZ, LEVIN, COHN, FERRIS, GLOVSKY AND POPEO, P.C.
`· · · · ·One Financial Center
`·3· · · ·Boston, Massachusetts· 02111
`· · · · ·BY:· David G. Conlin, Esquire
`·4· · · · · · dgconlin@mintz.com
`· · · · · · · 617.348.1856
`·5· · · · and Kathleen B. Carr, Esquire
`· · · · · · · kbcarr@mintz.com
`·6· · · · · · 617.348.1857
`· · · · · · · · · · · · ·Attorneys for the Plaintiffs
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`·8· · · ·WITHERS BERGMAN, LLP
`· · · · ·1700 East Putnam Avenue, Suite 400
`·9· · · ·Greenwich, Connecticut 06870-1366
`· · · · ·BY:· Steven J. Moore, Esquire
`10· · · · · · steven.moore@withersworldwide.com
`· · · · · · · 203.302.4100
`11· · · · · · · · · Attorney for the Defendant,
`· · · · · Zydus Pharmaceuticals (USA) Inc.
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`13· · · ·LOCKE LORD, LLP
`· · · · ·111 South Wacker Drive
`14· · · ·Chicago, Illinois 60606
`· · · · ·BY:· Andy J. Miller, Esquire
`15· · · · · · amiller@lockelord.com
`· · · · · · · 312.443.1717
`16· · · · · · · · · Attorney for the Defendant, Apotex, Inc.
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`18· · · ·ALSTON & BIRD, LLP
`· · · · ·1201 W. Peachtree Street
`19· · · ·Atlanta, Georgia· 30309
`· · · · ·BY:· Shri Abhyankar, Esquire
`20· · · · · · shri.abhyankar@alston.com
`· · · · · · · 404.881.7687
`21· · · · · · · · · Attorney for the Defendant,
`· · · · · Orient Pharma Co., Ltd.
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`23· ·ALSO PRESENT:· ·Shawn Budd, video specialist
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`RANDALL ZUSMAN, M.D. - 09/30/2016RANDALL ZUSMAN, M.D. - 09/30/2016
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`·1· · · ·lipid-lowering therapies for decades.· I've never
`·2· · · ·encountered something that I would consider to be
`·3· · · ·industry praise for pitavastatin.
`·4· ·Q· ·But for the purpose of forming your opinion in
`·5· · · ·connection with this litigation --
`·6· ·A· ·Yes.
`·7· ·Q· ·-- did you ever search for industry praise or
`·8· · · ·search for industry discussion of Livalo or
`·9· · · ·pitavastatin calcium?
`10· · · · · · ·MR. MOORE:· Objection to form.
`11· ·A· ·Are you asking did I go on, say, PubMed, or did I
`12· · · ·go on google to look for something about
`13· · · ·pitavastatin that rose to the level of industry
`14· · · ·praise?
`15· ·Q· ·I'm asking if you ever searched in any way for any
`16· · · ·opinions voiced in the industry concerning Livalo
`17· · · ·or pitavastatin.
`18· ·A· ·In the industry, meaning specifically the
`19· · · ·pharmaceutical industry by Kowa, for example?
`20· ·Q· ·What industry do you think your opinion relates
`21· · · ·to?
`22· ·A· ·Well, I think it relates in general to the
`23· · · ·pharmaceutical industry, to the clinical world.
`24· · · ·mean, anything that would rise to the level of
`25· · · ·praise, I guess might be considered to be industry
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`·1· · · ·praise.
`·2· · · · · · ·I'm not aware of any article that
`·3· · · ·specifically rises to the level of industry
`·4· · · ·praise, but yes, I have looked for information
`·5· · · ·about pitavastatin and found nothing that I
`·6· · · ·thought was adequate to reach that standard.
`·7· ·Q· ·Where did you look?
`·8· ·A· ·Oh, I googled pitavastatin just to see what came
`·9· · · ·up about it.
`10· ·Q· ·And what came up about it?
`11· ·A· ·There are, you know, citations to some of the
`12· · · ·publications that I've reported.· There was, I
`13· · · ·believe, a citation to the FDA approval
`14· · · ·notifications, those sorts of things.
`15· · · · · · ·Nothing that I felt rose to the level of
`16· · · ·industry praise.
`17· ·Q· ·What is your understanding of what industry praise
`18· · · ·is?
`19· ·A· ·Well, my understanding is that it would be
`20· · · ·recognition of the unique characteristics of the
`21· · · ·drug that would, if you will, make it novel,
`22· · · ·sufficiently novel to be the focus of, say,
`23· · · ·symposium where the drug would be discussed, or an
`24· · · ·award that the drug had received, or some evidence
`25· · · ·in the pharmaceutical literature of the wonderful
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`·1· ·A· ·I was, yes.· Would you like to discuss the Corsini
`·2· · · ·article?· Would you like to give it to me?
`·3· ·Q· ·Oh, we'll get to it, doctor.· Thank you very much.
`·4· · · ·I'll get to it.
`·5· ·A· ·If you want to ask me specifically about the
`·6· · · ·Corsini article, I'll be happy to look at it.
`·7· ·Q· ·I'll be happy to show it to you.
`·8· · · · · · ·How much time did you spend searching for
`·9· · · ·evidence in the literature for industry praise of
`10· · · ·Livalo?
`11· ·A· ·Oh, I imagine I spent a couple of hours.· I didn't
`12· · · ·keep track.
`13· ·Q· ·And when you saw the literature citations in
`14· · · ·google, did you go to the literature themselves
`15· · · ·and read them?
`16· ·A· ·Some of them, if I thought it might be something
`17· · · ·that would help me in forming my opinion.
`18· ·Q· ·And if you didn't think it would help you in
`19· · · ·forming your opinion, you didn't read them, is
`20· · · ·that right?
`21· ·A· ·Well, you know, I think some of these things were
`22· · · ·news reports; Livalo was approved today by the
`23· · · ·Food and Drug Administration.· After looking at a
`24· · · ·few of those, I think I could anticipate what
`25· · · ·subsequent ones would look like, and I didn't
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`·1· · · ·a trainee and later as a member of the staff of
`·2· · · ·the Mass. General Hospital, I felt that, as I
`·3· · · ·state here, elderly and patients of Asian descent
`·4· · · ·were receiving safe and effective treatment for
`·5· · · ·their high cholesterol using the options that were
`·6· · · ·available in 1987, and certainly in 2003 when
`·7· · · ·statins were obviously clearly available.
`·8· ·Q· ·Right.· But I'm trying to direct your attention to
`·9· · · ·the situation as of 1987, and in that case, the
`10· · · ·treatment options that were available were less
`11· · · ·effective than statins, weren't they.
`12· ·A· ·Less effective, yes.
`13· ·Q· ·So that if you had some patients with very serious
`14· · · ·cholesterol difficulties, it might be difficult or
`15· · · ·even impossible to reach the goal that those
`16· · · ·patients should reach using the available
`17· · · ·treatments in 1987, pre-statin, isn't that right?
`18· ·A· ·Well, they were receiving safe and effective
`19· · · ·treatment for 1987.· Remember, even today, our
`20· · · ·targets, our goals are changing.· This is a
`21· · · ·constantly evolutionary field.
`22· · · · · · ·So in 1987, in particular, I'm drawing
`23· · · ·attention, there was no reason to conclude that
`24· · · ·the elderly patients or patients of Asian descent,
`25· · · ·as opposed to the young or nonAsian patients, were
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