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`TO DECLARATION OF CHRISTIANA GARRETT
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`TO DECLARATION OF CHRISTIANA GARRETT
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`· · · · · · UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
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`· · · · · ·SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA
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`· · · · · · · · ·SAN DIEGO DIVISION
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`NUVASIVE, INC., a Delaware
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`· · · · · Plaintiff,
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`· · · · · v.· · · · ·Case No. 3:18-CV-00347
`· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · -CAB-MDD
`ALPHATEC HOLDINGS, INC., a
`Delaware corporation and
`ALPHATEC SPINE, INC., a
`California corporation,
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`· · · · · Defendants.
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`_______________________________________________________
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`· · ·HIGHLY CONFIDENTIAL - ATTORNEYS' EYES ONLY
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`· · · · VIDEOTAPED DEPOSITION OF FRANK CHANG
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`· ·ALPHATEC’S HOLDINGS, INC. RULE 30(b)(6) WITNESS
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`· · · · · · · · SAN DIEGO, CALIFORNIA
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`· · · · · · · · · JANUARY 15, 2020
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`REPORTED BY:· PATRICIA Y. SCHULER, CSR No. 11949
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`·1· · · · · · · ·UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
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`·2· · · · · · · SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA
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`·3· · · · · · · · · · SAN DIEGO DIVISION
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`·5· ·NUVASIVE, INC., a Delaware
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`· · · · · · · ·v.· · · · · · ·Case No. 3:18-CV-00347
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`· · ·ALPHATEC HOLDINGS, INC., a
`·9· ·Delaware corporation and
`· · ·ALPHATEC SPINE, INC., a
`10· ·California corporation,
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`11· · · · · · ·Defendants.
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`12· ·_______________________________________________________
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`13· · · · Videotaped deposition of FRANK CHANG, taken on
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`14· ·behalf of the Defendants at 12235 El Camino Real,
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`15· ·Suite 100, San Diego, California, at 9:03 a.m. and
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`16· ·ending at 6:17 p.m., on January 15, 2020, before
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`17· ·PATRICIA Y. SCHULER, Certified Shorthand Reporter
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`18· ·No. 11949.
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`·1· ·APPEARANCES:
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`·2· ·FOR PLAINTIFF:
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`·3· · · · · · ·WILSON SONSINI GOODRICH & ROSATI, P.C.
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`·4· · · · · · ·BY:· PAUL D. TRIPODI, II, ESQ.
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`·5· · · · · · ·633 West Fifth Street
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`·6· · · · · · ·Suite 1550
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`·7· · · · · · ·Los Angeles, California· 90071
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`·8· · · · · · ·Ptripodi@wsgr.com
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`·9· · · · · · ·- and -
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`10· · · · · · ·WILSON SONSINI GOODRICH & ROSATI, P.C.
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`11· · · · · · ·BY:· CHRISTINA DASHE, ESQ.
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`12· · · · · · ·12235 El Camino Real
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`13· · · · · · ·Suite 200
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`14· · · · · · ·San Diego, California· 92130
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`15· · · · · · ·CDashe@wsgr.com
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`16· ·FOR DEFENDANTS:
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`17· · · · · · ·WINSTON STRAWN LLP
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`18· · · · · · ·BY:· BRIAN J. NISBET, ESQ.
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`19· · · · · · ·35 West Wacker Drive
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`20· · · · · · ·Chicago, Illinois 60601-9703
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`21· · · · · · ·bnisbet@winston.com
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`22· ·VIDEOGRAPHER:· TY PAULSON
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`23· ·ALSO PRESENT:· TYSON MARSHALL
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`24· · · · · · · · · KATE CORLEW
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`·1· · · · · · · · · · · · ·I-N-D-E-X
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`·2· ·WITNESS:· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · ·EXAMINATION
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`·3· ·FRANK CHANG· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · ·PAGE
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`·4· ·MS. DASHE· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 9
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`·6· · · · · · · · · · · E-X-H-I-B-I-T-S
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`·7· ·PLAINTIFF'S· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · ·PAGE
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`·8· ·Exhibit 1· · ·Document entitled "NuVasive· · · · ·13
`· · · · · · · · · ·Inc.'s Amended Second Notice of
`·9· · · · · · · · ·Deposition of Alphatec Holdings
`· · · · · · · · · ·Inc. and Alphatec Spine Inc.
`10· · · · · · · · ·pursuant to rule 30(b)6"
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`11· ·Exhibit 2· · ·Document entitled "NuVasive· · · · ·14
`· · · · · · · · · ·Inc.'s Second Notice of
`12· · · · · · · · ·Deposition of Alphatec Holdings
`· · · · · · · · · ·Inc. and Alphatec Spine Inc.
`13· · · · · · · · ·pursuant to rule 30(b)6"
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`14· ·Exhibit 3· · ·Document entitled "2016· · · · · · ·79
`· · · · · · · · · ·Performance Management Form"
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`· · ·Exhibit 4· · ·Document entitled "LLIF Retractor· ·90
`16· · · · · · · · ·Test Protocol" dated January 7,
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`· · ·Exhibit 5· · ·Document Bates stamped· · · · · · · 92
`18· · · · · · · · ·ATEC_LLIF000151174
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`19· ·Exhibit 6· · ·Document Bates stamped ATEC_LLIF· · 95
`· · · · · · · · · ·863096
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`· · ·Exhibit 7· · ·Document entitled "Battalion· · · ·148
`21· · · · · · · · ·Lateral Lumbar Spacer System,"
`· · · · · · · · · ·Bates stamped NUVA_ATEC00144447
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`23· ·Exhibit 8· · ·Document entitled "Case Notes,"· · 175
`· · · · · · · · · ·Bates stamped ATEC_LLIF000854960
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`·1· · · · · · · · E-X-H-I-B-I-T-S (CONTINUED)
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`·2· ·PLAINTIFF'S· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · ·PAGE
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`·3· ·Exhibit 9· · ·Document entitled "Case Notes,"· · 191
`· · · · · · · · · ·Bates stamped ATEC_LLIF000854978
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`·5· ·Exhibit 10· · Document entitled "Case Notes,"· · 207
`· · · · · · · · · ·Bates stamped ATEC_LLIF00854994
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`·7· ·Exhibit 11· · Document entitled "Case Notes,"· · 223
`· · · · · · · · · ·Bates stamped ATEC_LLIF000855000
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`·9· ·Exhibit 12· · Document entitled "Case Notes,"· · 234
`· · · · · · · · · ·Bates stamped ATEC_LLIF000855000
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`11· ·Exhibit 13· · Document entitled "Case Notes,"· · 242
`· · · · · · · · · ·Bates stamped ATEC_LLIF000672779
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`13· ·Exhibit 14· · Document entitled "Squadron with· ·254
`· · · · · · · · · ·Arsenal case review, Paul Sawin
`14· · · · · · · · ·M.D.," Bates stamped
`· · · · · · · · · ·ATEC_LLIF00618461 through 480
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`· · ·Exhibit 15· · Document entitled "Visiting· · · · 261
`16· · · · · · · · ·Surgeon Program," Bates stamped
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`· · ·Exhibit 16· · Document entitled "R&D Meeting,· · 268
`18· · · · · · · · ·Bates stamped ATEC_LLIF000627235
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`19· ·Exhibit 17· · Defendant's Second Amended· · · · ·276
`· · · · · · · · · ·Response to Plaintiff NuVasive,
`20· · · · · · · · ·Inc.'s First Set of
`· · · · · · · · · ·Interrogatories, No. 2"
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`· · ·Exhibit 18· · Verification· · · · · · · · · · · ·276
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`· · ·Exhibit 19· · Document entitled "Defendant's· · ·282
`23· · · · · · · · ·Responses to Plaintiff NuVasive,
`· · · · · · · · · ·Inc.'s Third Set of
`24· · · · · · · · ·Interrogatories, No. 17"
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`·2· ·PLAINTIFF'S· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · ·PAGE
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`·3· ·Exhibit 20· · Redacted and excerpted portion of· 296
`· · · · · · · · · ·the rebuttal expert report of
`·4· · · · · · · · ·Keith Ugone, Ph.D., dated
`· · · · · · · · · ·December 4, 2019
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`·6· · · · · · · · ·ATEC_LLIF000856178 through 180
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`·7· ·Exhibit 22· · Document entitled "Attachment 4,· ·330
`· · · · · · · · · ·surgeon survey," Bates stamped
`·8· · · · · · · · ·ATEC_LLIF 200864 through 889
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`·9· ·Exhibit 23· · Document entitled "Lateral· · · · ·340
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`10· · · · · · · · ·ATEC_LLIF000878140 through 171
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`11· ·Exhibit 24· · Document entitled "Market Launch· ·344
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`12· · · · · · · · ·ATEC_LLIF000862396 through 403
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`13· ·Exhibit 25· · Document Bates stamped· · · · · · ·345
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`15· · · · · · · · ·Value Creation Opportunity,"
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`17· ·Exhibit 27· · Document Bates stamped· · · · · · ·350
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`·1· ·SAN DIEGO, CALIFORNIA; WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 15, 2020
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`·2· · · · · · · · · · · · ·9:03 a.m.
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`·3· · · · · · ·THE VIDEOGRAPHER:· Good morning.· We are
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`·4· ·on the record at 9:03 a.m., on January 15, 2020.
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`·5· ·Audio and video recording will continue to take
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`·6· ·place until all parties agree to go off the record.
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`·7· ·Please note that the microphones are sensitive and
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`·8· ·may pick up whispering and private conversations.
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`·9· · · · · · ·This is a video-recorded deposition of
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`10· ·Frank Chang, in the matter of NuVasive v. Alphatec
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`11· ·Holdings, taken by counsel for the plaintiffs,
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`12· ·filed in the United States District Court, Southern
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`13· ·District of California, San Diego Division.
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`14· · · · · · ·This deposition is taking place at
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`15· ·Wilson, Sonsini, Goodrich & Rosati, located at
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`16· ·12235 El Camino Real, in San Diego, California
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`17· ·92130.
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`18· · · · · · ·My name is Ty Paulson.· I am the
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`19· ·videographer on behalf of U.S. Legal Support,
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`20· ·located at 1230 Columbia Street, Suite 400, in
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`21· ·San Diego, California 92101.
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`22· · · · · · ·The court reporter is Patricia Schuler,
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`23· ·on behalf of U.S. Legal Support.· I am not related
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`24· ·to any party in this action, nor am I financially
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`25· ·interested in the outcome.
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`·1· · · · · · ·Counsel will state their appearances for
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`·2· ·the record, after which the court reporter will
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`·3· ·swear in the witness.
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`·4· · · · · · ·MS. DASHE:· Christina Dashe from Wilson
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`·5· ·Sonsini Goodrich & Rosati, on behalf of plaintiff
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`·6· ·NuVasive.· With me is my colleague Paul Tripodi,
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`·7· ·also of Wilson Sonsini, as well as Kate Corlew of
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`·8· ·NuVasive.
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`·9· · · · · · ·MR. NISBET:· Brian Nisbet with Winston &
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`10· ·Strawn, on behalf of the Alphatec entities and the
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`11· ·witness.· With me is Tyson Marshall, counsel with
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`·1· · · · · · · · · · · ·FRANK CHANG,
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`·2· · called as a witness, having been duly sworn by the
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`·3· · · court reporter, was examined and testified as
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`·4· · · · · · · · · · · · ·follows:
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`·7· ·BY MS. DASHE:
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`·8· · · · Q.· ·Good morning.
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`·9· · · · A.· ·Hi.
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`10· · · · Q.· ·Please state and spell your full name for
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`11· ·the record.
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`12· · · · A.· ·Frank Chang, F-R-A-N-K, C-H-A-N-G.
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`13· · · · Q.· ·Where do you currently live?
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`14· · · · A.· ·Carlsbad.
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`15· · · · Q.· ·California?
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`16· · · · A.· ·California.
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`17· · · · Q.· ·Who is your current employer?
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`18· · · · A.· ·Alphatec Spine.
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`19· · · · Q.· ·How long have you been employed at
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`20· ·Alphatec?
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`21· · · · A.· ·A little over four years.
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`22· · · · Q.· ·What is your current title?
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`23· · · · A.· ·Senior design engineer.
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`24· · · · Q.· ·Have you ever been deposed before?
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`25· · · · A.· ·No.
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`·1· ·accused products?
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`·2· · · · · · ·Do you see that?
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`·3· · · · A.· ·Okay.· I do see that.
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`·4· · · · Q.· ·Do you understand, then, that NuVasive
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`·5· ·generally asked Alphatec to identify any
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`·6· ·alternative designs or alternative methods that
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`·7· ·Alphatec contends to be acceptable alternatives to
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`·8· ·the Battalion lateral system?
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`·9· · · · A.· ·Recently?
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`10· · · · · · ·MR. NISBET:· Object to the form of the
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`11· ·question.
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`12· ·BY MS. DASHE:
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`13· · · · Q.· ·It's a document dated October 2019.
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`14· · · · A.· ·No.
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`15· · · · Q.· ·What do you understand that sentence to
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`16· ·be asking?
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`17· · · · · · ·MR. NISBET:· Object to the form of the
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`18· ·question.· It is outside the scope.· He doesn't
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`19· ·have any personal knowledge of it, so I'm not sure
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`20· ·what the point of that inquiry is.
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`21· · · · · · ·But you can answer, to the extent you
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`22· ·understand it.
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`23· · · · · · ·THE WITNESS:· I'm not really sure. I
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`24· ·guess whatever the accused product is.· You're
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`25· ·asking if we have any prospective alternative
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`·1· ·design or alternative method that we contend to be
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`·2· ·acceptable and noninfringing to that.
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`·3· ·BY MS. DASHE:
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`·4· · · · Q.· ·If you go to Page 5, the first bullet.
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`·5· ·Do you see where it says "Medtronic retractor
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`·6· ·systems and surgical techniques, including without
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`·7· ·limitation Direct Lateral Interbody Fusion (DLIF)
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`·8· ·and MAST QUADRANT"?
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`·9· · · · A.· ·Okay.
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`10· · · · Q.· ·Are you familiar with Medtronic's DLIF or
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`11· ·MAST QUADRANT?
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`12· · · · · · ·MR. NISBET:· Object to the form.
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`13· · · · · · ·THE WITNESS:· I have heard of DLIF, but I
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`14· ·don't know what it looks like.
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`15· ·BY MS. DASHE:
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`16· · · · Q.· ·What have you heard about DLIF?
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`17· · · · A.· ·That it is direct lateral interbody
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`18· ·fusion.
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`19· · · · Q.· ·Is that a lateral access system?
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`20· · · · A.· ·I have heard of DLIF.· That's about as
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`21· ·much as I know.· I don't know what is included in
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`22· ·DLIF.· I have never seen what the tools they
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`23· ·provide are.
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`24· · · · Q.· ·Have you ever seen a DLIF surgical guide?
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`25· · · · A.· ·No.
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`·1· · · · Q.· ·Do you have any idea what the DLIF --
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`·2· ·Medtronic DLIF system looks like at all?
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`·3· · · · A.· ·No.
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`·4· · · · Q.· ·Have you heard of an entity called
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`·5· ·Warsaw?
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`·6· · · · A.· ·Come again?
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`·7· · · · Q.· ·Warsaw, W-a-r-s-a-w.
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`·8· · · · A.· ·Like the place in Indiana?
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`·9· · · · Q.· ·Yes.· Actually, yes.
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`10· · · · A.· ·Like have I heard -- I have heard of
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`11· ·Warsaw, Indiana.· I don't know if that is a company
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`12· ·or an item.· Sorry.
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`13· · · · Q.· ·You can set that aside.
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`14· · · · · · ·If you go back to Exhibit 1, please.
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`15· · · · · · ·MR. NISBET:· Can we take a quick break?
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`16· · · · · · ·MS. DASHE:· Yeah.· Actually, I think I'm
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`17· ·transitioning, so we'll take a break.
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`18· · · · · · ·MR. NISBET:· Okay.
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`19· · · · · · ·THE WITNESS:· Okay.
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`20· · · · · · ·THE VIDEOGRAPHER:· We're off the record
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`21· ·at 4:28 p.m.
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`22· · · · · · ·(Recess taken.)
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`23· · · · · · ·THE VIDEOGRAPHER:· We're back on the
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`24· ·record at 4:39 p.m.
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`·1· ·BY MS. DASHE:
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`·2· · · · Q.· ·Welcome back, Mr. Chang.· Before we
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`·3· ·broke, I had you pull out Exhibit 1.
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`·4· · · · · · ·Do you have that in front of you?
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`·5· · · · A.· ·I do.
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`·6· · · · Q.· ·If you go to Page 10, again, please, and
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`·7· ·go to Topic No. 6.· Let me know when you're there.
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`·8· · · · A.· ·6?
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`·9· · · · Q.· ·Yes.
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`10· · · · A.· ·Yes.
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`11· · · · Q.· ·Do you understand that you have been
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`12· ·designated to provide testimony regarding
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`13· ·Alphatec's corporate knowledge regarding Topic
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`14· ·No. 6?
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`15· · · · A.· ·Yes.
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`16· · · · · · ·MR. NISBET:· And, again, subject to
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`17· ·conversations and objections.
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`18· ·BY MS. DASHE:
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`19· · · · Q.· ·Do you see that Topic 6 is "Alphatec's
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`20· ·ability to develop bring to market a two-bladed
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`21· ·retractor according to the Warsaw patents -- and it
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`22· ·lists three patents -- including Alphatec's
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`23· ·development time and cost of developing and
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`24· ·manufacturing a two-bladed retractor and market
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`25· ·acceptance of a two-bladed retractor."
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`·1· · · · · · ·Do you see that?
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`·2· · · · A.· ·I see that.
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`·3· · · · Q.· ·Does the usage of the term "Warsaw
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`·4· ·patent" in Topic 6 help refresh your recollection
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`·5· ·as to who Warsaw may be?
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`·6· · · · A.· ·No.
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`·7· · · · Q.· ·Do you see the three patents listed under
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`·8· ·Topic 6?
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`·9· · · · A.· ·I do.
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`10· · · · Q.· ·Did you look at those three patents in
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`11· ·preparing for your deposition testimony today?
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`12· · · · A.· ·I have not.
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`13· · · · Q.· ·Do you have any patents?
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`14· · · · A.· ·No.
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`15· · · · Q.· ·What did you do to prepare to provide
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`16· ·Alphatec's knowledge with respect to Topic 6?
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`17· · · · A.· ·I spoke to our counsel and Scott.
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`18· · · · Q.· ·What did you speak with Scott Robinson
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`19· ·about?
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`20· · · · A.· ·General information on what it takes.
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`21· · · · Q.· ·What do you mean by "what it takes"?
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`22· · · · A.· ·What resources are necessary.· Again, I'm
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`23· ·a design engineer, not a budgeting expert or a --
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`24· ·what do you want to call it?· Just an executive in
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`25· ·R & D who has seen the entire process from above.
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`·1· · · · Q.· ·And what -- what are the -- strike that.
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`·2· · · · · · ·What resources -- strike that.
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`·3· · · · · · ·What is your understanding of the
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`·4· ·two-bladed retractor referred to in Topic 6?
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`·5· · · · · · ·MR. NISBET:· Objection to the form;
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`·6· ·vague.
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`·7· · · · · · ·THE WITNESS:· In Topic 6?
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`·8· ·BY MS. DASHE:
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`·9· · · · Q.· ·Yes.
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`10· · · · A.· ·It would be a retractor with two blades.
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`11· · · · Q.· ·What did Scott Robinson tell you about
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`12· ·the resource required to develop a two-bladed
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`13· ·retractor?
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`14· · · · A.· ·In relation to what aspect?· Materials?
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`15· · · · Q.· ·Generally, what did he tell you during
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`16· ·your conversations in preparing for today's
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`17· ·deposition?
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`18· · · · A.· ·That we had the ability at that time to
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`19· ·do so, or -- and still do.
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`20· · · · Q.· ·Is this a two-bladed retractor for
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`21· ·lateral surgery?
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`22· · · · A.· ·Yes.
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`23· · · · Q.· ·What else did Scott Robinson tell you in
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`24· ·your conversations regarding this topic?
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`25· · · · A.· ·To perform -- or to -- sorry.· To bring
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`·1· ·to market a two-bladed retractor, we would require,
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`·2· ·obviously, certain resources.· Those being
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`·3· ·engineering resources, possibly a surgeon team,
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`·4· ·prototyping -- so machine, time, and materials.
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`·5· · · · Q.· ·What is machine time and materials?
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`·6· · · · A.· ·To get something like an access
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`·7· ·instrument done, or really any instrument cut out
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`·8· ·of metal -- all instruments are pretty much cut out
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`·9· ·of metal unless they're PEK or plastic -- but even
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`10· ·then, you need machine time.· You know, need to
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`11· ·basically reserve time on a machine from a
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`12· ·manufacturer, or within our own capacities within
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`13· ·our company in the machine shop we call "tag."· So
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`14· ·reserving time in tag to have prototypes made which
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`15· ·speeds up the process mightily.
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`16· · · · Q.· ·Aside from speaking with Scott Robinson
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`17· ·and counsel, did you do anything else to prepare to
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`18· ·provide Alphatec's knowledge with respect to Topic
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`19· ·6?
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`20· · · · A.· ·No.
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`21· · · · Q.· ·Did you look at any documents?
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`22· · · · A.· ·No.
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`23· · · · Q.· ·Alphatec did not actually develop a
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`24· ·two-bladed lateral retractor, did it?
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`25· · · · A.· ·At that time?
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`·1· · · · Q.· ·At any time.
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`·2· · · · A.· ·We have nothing on the market.
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`·3· · · · Q.· ·You do not have a commercially available
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`·4· ·two-bladed retractor for lateral fusion surgery; is
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`·5· ·that correct?
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`·6· · · · A.· ·That is correct.
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`·7· · · · Q.· ·Have you ever had a two-bladed -- has
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`·8· ·Alphatec ever had a two-bladed retractor for
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`·9· ·lateral fusion spine surgery?
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`10· · · · A.· ·How is that different from the last
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`11· ·question?· No, we -- we do not have a commercially
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`12· ·available retractor, and nor have we had one in the
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`13· ·past.· Sorry.
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`14· · · · Q.· ·So this two-bladed retractor that you
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`15· ·spoke with Mr. Robinson about, that would be a
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`16· ·hypothetical retractor; is that right?
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`17· · · · A.· ·We are currently in development of one as
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`18· ·well.
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`19· · · · Q.· ·When you spoke with Mr. Robinson, did you
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`20· ·rely on any of -- excuse me.
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`21· · · · · · ·When you spoke with Mr. Robinson, did he
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`22· ·rely on any of Alphatec's experiences with the
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`23· ·current development of a two-bladed retractor?
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`24· · · · A.· ·No.· We were talking -- we were talking
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`25· ·hypotheticals on that time while we were developing
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`·1· ·the three, if we went to a two, was it possible,
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`·2· ·and from what I understand, yes, it was possible.
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`·3· · · · Q.· ·So in preparing for giving testimony on
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`·4· ·behalf of Alphatec with respect to Topic 6, you
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`·5· ·were discussing a hypothetical two-bladed
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`·6· ·retractor; is that right?
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`·7· · · · A.· ·Yes.
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`·8· · · · Q.· ·You also said that you're currently in
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`·9· ·development of a two-bladed retractor?
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`10· · · · A.· ·That is part of our agenda in 2020.
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`11· · · · Q.· ·That is --
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`12· · · · A.· ·Well, 2019-2020.
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`13· · · · Q.· ·When I say, "you," I mean Alphatec has it
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`14· ·on its agenda --
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`15· · · · A.· ·Yes.
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`16· · · · Q.· ·-- to develop?
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`17· · · · A.· ·Yes.
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`18· · · · Q.· ·Is that a lateral retractor?
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`19· · · · A.· ·I'm actually not privy to what it's
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`20· ·actually going to be used for.· Potentially, but...
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`21· · · · Q.· ·So you don't know if the two-bladed
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`22· ·retractor for development on Alphatec's agenda will
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`23· ·be used for lateral or something else; is that
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`24· ·right?
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`25· · · · A.· ·I think it might be.
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`·1· · · · Q.· ·Might be used for lateral?
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`·2· · · · A.· ·It might be, yes.
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`·3· · · · Q.· ·And how do you know that?
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`·4· · · · A.· ·Just based on what Scott mentioned.
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`·5· · · · Q.· ·What did Scott mention?
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`·6· · · · A.· ·That it -- I think he might have said
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`·7· ·that it would be used for lateral, but I'm not
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`·8· ·sure.
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`·9· · · · Q.· ·And that's Scott Robinson?
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`10· · · · A.· ·That is Scott Robinson.
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`11· · · · Q.· ·Is Scott Robinson involved in developing
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`12· ·the two-bladed retractor that Alphatec has on its
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`13· ·agenda for 2020?
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`14· · · · A.· ·No.
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`15· · · · Q.· ·Do you know who is?
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`16· · · · A.· ·The access team.
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`17· · · · Q.· ·What is the access team?
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`18· · · · A.· ·It's a branch of our product development
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`19· ·team.
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`20· · · · Q.· ·Is the two-bladed retractor that Alphatec
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`21· ·has on its agenda to development in 2020, is that
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`22· ·meant to be used in conjunction with the Squadron
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`23· ·retractor?
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`24· · · · A.· ·No.
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`25· · · · Q.· ·Is it intended to replace the Squadron
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`·1· ·retractor?
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`·2· · · · A.· ·No.
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`·3· · · · Q.· ·But it might be used for lateral; is that
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`·4· ·correct?
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`·5· · · · A.· ·I think so.
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`·6· · · · Q.· ·And you're not part of the team
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`·7· ·developing the two-bladed retractor, right?
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`·8· · · · A.· ·No, I'm on interbody.
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`·9· · · · Q.· ·If Alphatec had brought the hypothetical
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`10· ·two-bladed retractor that you're discussing with
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`11· ·respect to Topic 6, would Alphatec have had to get
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`12· ·any sort of FDA clearance?
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`13· · · · A.· ·No.
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`14· · · · Q.· ·The actual two-bladed retractor that's
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`15· ·being developed at Alphatec, similarly, that would
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`16· ·not require any sort of FDA clearance, right?
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`17· · · · A.· ·The current one?
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`18· · · · Q.· ·Yes.
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`19· · · · A.· ·Yes.
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`20· · · · Q.· ·Do you know what the timeline is for
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`21· ·developing the Alphatec two-bladed retractor?
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`22· · · · · · ·MR. NISBET:· Are you talking about the --
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`23· ·BY MS. DASHE:
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`24· · · · Q.· ·The currently in development one?
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`25· · · · A.· ·Oh, the timeline?
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`·1· · · · Q.· ·Um-hmm.
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`·2· · · · A.· ·I think we started it in June of 2019,
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`·3· ·and we're slated to finish within the year, if --
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`·4· ·around that time.
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`·5· · · · Q.· ·So that would be about a year and a half?
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`·6· · · · A.· ·No, no, no.· Within a year.· So, yeah.
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`·7· · · · Q.· ·Did Mr. Robinson -- strike that.
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`·8· · · · · · ·So just to make sure that I'm clear, the
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`·9· ·actual two-bladed retractor that's in development
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`10· ·started in about June of 2019, and is currently
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`11· ·slated to be completed on or around June of 2020;
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`12· ·is that right?
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`13· · · · A.· ·Yes.· Somewhere around there.
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`14· · · · Q.· ·Do you know what the status is of the
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`15· ·actual two-bladed retractor in development at
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`16· ·Alphatec?
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`17· · · · · · ·MR. NISBET:· Objection to form.
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`18· · · · · · ·THE WITNESS:· The status of the current
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`19· ·one?
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`20· ·BY MS. DASHE:
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`21· · · · Q.· ·Yes.
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`22· · · · A.· ·In development.· I'm sorry, yeah, I'm not
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`23· ·on the team.
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`24· · · · Q.· ·Do you know if there's any prototypes?
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`25· · · · A.· ·I can't speak to that.
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`·1· · · · · · ·I, PATRICIA Y. SCHULER, a Certified
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`·2· ·Shorthand Reporter of the State of California, do
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`·3· ·hereby certify:
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`·4· · · · · · ·That the foregoing proceedings were taken
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`·5· ·before me at the time and place herein set forth;
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`·6· ·that any witnesses in the foregoing proceedings,
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`·7· ·prior to testifying, were duly sworn; that a
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`·8· ·verbatim record of the proceedings was made by me
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`·9· ·using machine shorthand which was thereafter
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`10· ·transcribed under my direction; that the foregoing
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`11· ·transcript is a true record of the testimony given.
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`12· · · · · · ·Further, that if the foregoing pertains
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`13· ·to the original transcript of a deposition in a
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`14· ·Federal Case, before completion of the proceedings,
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`15· ·review of the transcript [X] was [ ] was not
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`16· ·requested.
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`17· · · · · · ·I further certify I am neither
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`18· ·financially interested in the action nor a relative
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`19· ·or employee of any attorney of party to this
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`20· ·action.
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`21· · · · · · ·IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have this date
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`22· ·subscribed my name.
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`23· ·Dated:· January 16, 2020
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`24· · · · · · · · · · · · · _________________________
`· · · · · · · · · · · · · · PATRICIA Y. SCHULER
`25· · · · · · · · · · · · · CSR NO. 11949
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`Deposition Errata Sheet
`Frank Chang
`Deposition Date: January 15,2020
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`PAGE:LINE
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`Original Testimony
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`Corrected
`Testimony
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`34:17
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`40:3
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`48:23
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`79:17
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`82:14
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`83:14
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`83:15
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`99:10
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`109:15
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`120:20
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`121:23
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`136:12
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`136:23
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`142:7
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`163:18
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`182:6
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`205:24
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`206:9
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`265:20
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`272:4
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`"technique"
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`"discetomy"
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`"A-C-F"
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`"disrep"
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`"pexalobe"
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`"PEK"
`
`"PEK"
`
`"PEK"
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`"system"
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`"what"
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`"SGG"
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`"ACDF"
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`"disc prep"
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`"hexalobe"
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`"PEEK"
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`"PEEK"
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`"PEEK"
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`"assessment"
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`"that"
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`"STG"
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`"primary K-wire"
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`"primary, K-wire"
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`"pull"
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`"pull"
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`"acuate"
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`"I will be"
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`"cattawa"
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`"PEK"
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`"PEK"
`
`"pawl"
`
`"pawl"
`
`"actuate"
`
`"we are very"
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`"Cadwell"
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`"PEEK"
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`"PEEK"
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`"Alicia Ruby"
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`"Ali Shorooghi"
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`"end"
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`"AMP"
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`REASON
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`To correct
`transcription errors
`To correct
`transcription errors
`To correct
`transcription errors
`To correct
`transcription errors
`To correct
`transcription errors
`To correct
`transcription errors
`To correct
`transcription errors
`To correct
`transcription errors
`To correct
`transcription errors
`To correct
`transcription errors
`To correct
`transcription errors
`To correct
`transcription errors
`To correct
`transcription errors
`To correct
`transcription errors
`To correct
`transcription errors
`To correct
`transcription errors
`To correct
`transcription errors
`To correct
`transcription errors
`To correct
`transcription errors
`To correct
`transcription errors
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`Deposition Errata Sheet
`Frank Chang
`Deposition Date: January 15, 2020
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`PAGE:LINE
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`Original Testimony
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`Corrected
`Testimony
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`"TLIF"
`
`'TLIF"
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`"PEEK"
`
`"PEEK"
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`"QLIF"
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`"PLIF"
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`"PEK"
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`"PEK"
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`£>
`
`t&l o
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`279:13
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`279:14
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`290:9
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`324:10
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`Date:
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`Signature:
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`Frank Chi
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`REASON
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`To correct
`transcription errors
`To correct
`transcription errors
`To correct
`transcription errors
`To correct
`transcription errors
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`AmericasActive: 14394708.1
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