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`TO DECLARATION OF CHRISTIANA GARRETT
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`TO DECLARATION OF CHRISTIANA GARRETT
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`· · · · · · · · ·UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
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`· · · · · · · · SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA
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`· · ·NUVASIVE, INC., a Delaware
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`· · · · · · · ·Plaintiff,
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`· · · · · · · ·v.· · · · ·Case No. 3:18-CV-00347
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`· · ·ALPHATEC HOLDINGS, INC., a
`· · ·Delaware corporation and
`· · ·ALPHATEC SPINE, INC., a
`· · ·California corporation,
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`· · · · · · · ·Defendants.
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`· · · · · HIGHLY CONFIDENTIAL - ATTORNEYS' EYES ONLY
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`· · · · · · VIDEOTAPED DEPOSITION OF SCOTT ROBINSON
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`· · · · ALPHATEC’S HOLDINGS, INC. RULE 30(b)(6) WITNESS
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`· · · · · · · · · · ·SAN DIEGO, CALIFORNIA
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`· · · · · · · · · · · ·NOVEMBER 4, 2020
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`· · ·Reported By:
`· · ·PATRICIA Y. SCHULER
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`·1· · · · · · · ·UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
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`·2· · · · · · · SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA
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`·3· · · · · · · · · · SAN DIEGO DIVISION
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`·5· ·NUVASIVE, INC., a Delaware
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`· · · · · · · ·v.· · · · · · ·Case No. 3:18-CV-00347
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`· · ·ALPHATEC HOLDINGS, INC., a
`·9· ·Delaware corporation and
`· · ·ALPHATEC SPINE, INC., a
`10· ·California corporation,
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`11· · · · · · ·Defendants.
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`12· ·_______________________________________________________
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`13· · · · Videotaped deposition of SCOTT ROBINSON, taken
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`14· ·on behalf of the Plaintiffs via ZOOM, San Diego,
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`15· ·California, at 10:04 a.m. and ending at 1:58 p.m.,
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`16· ·on November 4, 2020, before PATRICIA Y. SCHULER,
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`17· ·Certified Shorthand Reporter No. 11949.
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`·1· ·APPEARANCES:
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`·2· ·FOR PLAINTIFF:
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`·3· · · · · · ·WILSON SONSINI GOODRICH & ROSATI, P.C.
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`·4· · · · · · ·BY:· WENDY L. DEVINE, ESQ.
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`·5· · · · · · ·BY:· CHRISTINA DASHE, ESQ.
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`·6· · · · · · ·One Market Plaza, Spear Tower
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`·7· · · · · · ·Suite 3300
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`·8· · · · · · ·San Francisco, California· 94105
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`·9· · · · · · ·wdevine@wsgr.com
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`10· ·FOR DEFENDANTS:
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`11· · · · · · ·WINSTON STRAWN LLP
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`12· · · · · · ·BY:· SARANYA RAGHAVAN, ESQ.
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`13· · · · · · ·BY:· NIMALKA R. WICKRAMASEKERA, ESQ.
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`14· · · · · · ·333 South Grand Avenue
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`15· · · · · · ·Los Angeles, California 90071-1543
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`16· · · · · · ·nwickramasekera@winston.com
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`18· ·Also Present:
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`19· · · · · · ·Jason Hamilton
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`20· ·Videographer:
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`21· · · · · · ·Michael Spade
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`·1· · · · · · · · · · · · ·I-N-D-E-X
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`·2· ·WITNESS:· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · ·EXAMINATION
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`·3· ·SCOTT ROBINSON· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · PAGE
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`·4· ·MS. DEVINE· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · ·7
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`·8· ·PLAINTIFF'S· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · ·PAGE
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`·9· ·Exhibit 1· · ·NuVasive's 3rd Amended Notice of· · 11
`· · · · · · · · · ·Rule 30(b)(6) Deposition
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`· · ·Exhibit 2· · ·Defendants' Supplemental· · · · · · 17
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`13· ·Exhibit 3· · ·Zimmer Biomet Timberline Lateral· · 47
`· · · · · · · · · ·Fusion System Surgical Technique
`14· · · · · · · · ·Guide Bates-stamped
`· · · · · · · · · ·ATEC_LLIF000965436 through 487
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`· · ·Exhibit 4· · ·Alphatec Spine Management· · · · · ·59
`16· · · · · · · · ·Presentation Bates-stamped
`· · · · · · · · · ·ATEC_LLIF000854436 through 524
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`· · ·Exhibit 5· · ·Battalion Lateral Implant Guide· · ·64
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`· · ·Exhibit 6· · ·Battalion LLIF Design Team· · · · · 76
`20· · · · · · · · ·Feedback Analysis dated 6.26.15
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`22· ·Exhibit 7· · ·Battalion LLIF Implant System· · · ·79
`· · · · · · · · · ·Project Memo Project No. 15-004
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`·1· · · · · · · · E-X-H-I-B-I-T-S (CONTINUED)
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`·2· ·PLAINTIFF'S· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · ·PAGE
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`·3· ·Exhibit 8· · ·Product Development Agreement· · · ·83
`· · · · · · · · · ·dated 3.14.13 Bates-stamped
`·4· · · · · · · · ·ATEC_LLIF000895078 through 166
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`·5· ·Exhibit 9· · ·Alphatec Direct Lateral Cage· · · · 84
`· · · · · · · · · ·Concepts & Key Features dated
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`·8· · · · · · · · ·Tyber Medical & In'Tech Medical
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`·9· · · · · · · · ·Systems Doc No. TP100505
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`11· ·Exhibit 11· · Transcend LIF Lateral Approach· · · 95
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`·1· ·SAN DIEGO, CALIFORNIA; WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 4, 2020
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`·2· · · · · · · · · · · · 10:04 a.m.
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`·3· · · · · · ·THE VIDEOGRAPHER:· We are now on the
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`·4· ·record.· Participants should be aware that this
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`·5· ·proceeding is being recorded, and as such, all
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`·6· ·conversations held will be recorded unless there is
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`·7· ·a request and agreement to go off the record.
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`·8· ·Private conversations and/or attorney-client
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`·9· ·interactions should be held outside the presence of
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`10· ·the remote interface.
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`11· · · · · · ·For the purpose of creating a
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`12· ·witness-only video, the witness has been
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`13· ·spotlighted on your video screen.· We ask that the
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`14· ·witness not be removed from the spotlight as it may
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`15· ·cause other people to appear in the final video.
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`16· · · · · · ·For anyone who does not want the witness
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`17· ·to take up a large part of your screen, you may
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`18· ·click the "gallery view" button in the upper right
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`19· ·corner.
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`20· · · · · · ·This is the remote videorecorded
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`21· ·deposition of Scott Robinson being taken by counsel
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`22· ·for the Defendant.· Today is Wednesday, November 4,
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`23· ·2020, and the time now is 10:04 a.m. in the Pacific
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`24· ·time zone.· We are here in the matter of NuVasive
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`25· ·against Alphatec Holdings.· My name Michael Spade,
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`·1· ·remote video technician with U.S. Legal Support. I
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`·2· ·am not related to any party in this action.
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`·3· · · · · · ·At this time, will the reporter,
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`·4· ·Patricia Schuler, with U.S. Legal Support please
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`·5· ·swear in the witness.
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`·7· · · · · · · · · · · SCOTT ROBINSON,
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`·8· · having been administered an oath, was examined and
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`·9· · · · · · · · · ·testified as follows:
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`12· ·BY MS. DEVINE:
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`13· · · · Q.· ·Good morning, Mr. Robinson.
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`14· · · · A.· ·Good morning, Wendy.
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`15· · · · Q.· ·Can you hear me?
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`16· · · · A.· ·I can hear you just fine, thanks.
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`17· · · · Q.· ·Great.· If you can't hear me at any
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`18· ·point, would you please just let me know?
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`19· · · · A.· ·Will do, yes.
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`20· · · · Q.· ·Sure.
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`21· · · · · · ·Would you please state and spell your
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`22· ·name for the record?
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`23· · · · A.· ·Scott Robinson, S-C-O-T-T,
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`24· ·R-O-B-I-N-S-O-N.
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`25· · · · Q.· ·And would you please state your current
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`·1· · · · Q.· ·For lateral?
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`·2· · · · A.· ·For lateral.
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`·3· · · · · · ·MS. DEVINE:· We've been going about an
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`·4· ·hour.· Do you want to take a break?
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`·5· · · · · · ·MS. RAGHAVAN:· That sounds good, Counsel.
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`·6· · · · · · ·THE WITNESS:· Sure.
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`·7· · · · · · ·MS. DEVINE:· 15 minutes?
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`·8· · · · · · ·THE VIDEOGRAPHER:· Going off the record,
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`·9· ·then, the time is 11:05 a.m. Pacific.· We are off
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`10· ·the record.
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`11· · · · · · ·(Recess taken.)
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`12· · · · · · ·THE VIDEOGRAPHER:· We're back on the
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`13· ·record now.· Time 11:23 a.m. Pacific.
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`14· · · · · · ·You may proceed.
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`15· · · · · · ·(Exhibit 3 was marked for identification.)
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`16· ·BY MS. DEVINE:
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`17· · · · Q.· ·Mr. Robinson, there should be another
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`18· ·exhibit in the Boxshare marked Exhibit 3.
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`19· · · · A.· ·Yes, I've got it up.
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`20· · · · Q.· ·Great.· Do you recognize this document,
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`21· ·Exhibit 3?
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`22· · · · A.· ·I do.
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`23· · · · Q.· ·What is it?
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`24· · · · A.· ·It is the Zimmer -- I believe now Zimmer
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`25· ·Biomet -- Timberline lateral surgical technique.
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`·1· · · · Q.· ·Do you consider this Zimmer Timberline
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`·2· ·lateral system to be competitor to a ATEC's lateral
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`·3· ·system -- Alphatec's lateral system?
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`·4· · · · A.· ·I believe it is, yes.
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`·5· · · · Q.· ·If you go to Page 37 of this document.
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`·6· · · · A.· ·Um-hmm.
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`·7· · · · Q.· ·Do you see how the Zimmer lateral implant
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`·8· ·has certain radiographic markers?
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`·9· · · · A.· ·I do.
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`10· · · · Q.· ·And do you see that it only has one
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`11· ·marker on the midline?
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`12· · · · · · ·MS. RAGHAVAN:· Objection.· Form.
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`13· · · · · · ·THE WITNESS:· I see two markers in the
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`14· ·posterior aspect of the cage, and I see one marker
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`15· ·in the anterior aspect of the cage.
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`16· ·BY MS. DEVINE:
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`17· · · · Q.· ·And that one on the anterior, is it in
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`18· ·the middle of the cage?
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`19· · · · A.· ·How are you defining "the middle." I
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`20· ·would say that it's -- I would say that it's in the
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`21· ·anterior wall of the cage.
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`22· · · · Q.· ·But it's got a different placement than
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`23· ·the other two markers, right?
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`24· · · · A.· ·It seems to be approximately halfway
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`·1· · · · Q.· ·Would you call that in the middle of
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`·2· ·those markers?
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`·3· · · · · · ·MS. RAGHAVAN:· Objection.· Form.
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`·4· · · · · · ·THE WITNESS:· You could say it's in the
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`·5· ·middle of those, but -- you could say it's in the
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`·6· ·middle between.
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`·7· ·BY MS. DEVINE:
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`·8· · · · Q.· ·The Battalion lateral implant similarly
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`·9· ·has a marker in the middle; is that right?
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`10· · · · · · ·MS. RAGHAVAN:· Objection.· Form.· Calls
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`11· ·for a legal conclusion.
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`12· · · · · · ·THE WITNESS:· We have kind of an array of
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`13· ·radiographic markers.· I think we have markers in
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`14· ·the posterior -- posterior and anterior wall. I
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`15· ·would need to review a drawing to be sure.
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`17· · · · Q.· ·How many markers are in the Battalion
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`18· ·lateral implant?
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`19· · · · A.· ·I believe one, two, three, four, five --
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`20· ·five markers, I believe.
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`21· · · · Q.· ·So would you say there are more markers
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`22· ·in the Battalion lateral implant than are in the
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`24· · · · A.· ·I believe that is the case, yes.
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`25· · · · Q.· ·Did Alphatec ever consider using a
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`·1· ·smaller number of markers like we see here in the
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`·3· · · · A.· ·I mean, there are -- I'm sure we
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`·4· ·considered lots of options.· You know, the goal of
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`·5· ·surgery is to identify the proximal and distal ends
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`·6· ·and anterior and posterior aspects of the case with
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`·7· ·respect to the anatomy.· And that has to do with
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`·8· ·more than just placement within the cage, but also
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`·9· ·how that device is intended to be used in an
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`11· · · · Q.· ·So I don't -- I don't think I heard an
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`12· ·answer to the question, which is:· Did Alphatec
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`13· ·ever consider using a smaller number of markers and
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`14· ·eventually made it into the Battalion lateral
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`15· ·implant?
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`16· · · · A.· ·I mean, I believe I answered the question
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`17· ·completely.
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`18· · · · Q.· ·Was it a "yes"?
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`19· · · · A.· ·I believe my answer was that we
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`20· ·considered many alternatives; and that those
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`21· ·alternatives are driven by the clinical
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`22· ·requirements to be able to identify the anterior
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`23· ·and posterior aspects of the cage, identify the
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`·1· ·is designed to be used.
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`·2· · · · Q.· ·How is the Battalion lateral implant
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`·4· · · · · · ·MS. RAGHAVAN:· Objection.· Form.
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`·5· · · · · · ·THE WITNESS:· It is designed to be used
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`·6· ·as an interbody spacer.
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`·7· ·BY MS. DEVINE:
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`·8· · · · Q.· ·Given that that's how it is designed to
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`·9· ·be used, why does it require five markers?
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`10· · · · · · ·MS. RAGHAVAN:· Objection.· Form.
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`11· · · · · · ·THE WITNESS:· I don't think five markers
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`12· ·is a hard requirement.· Again, there's nowhere we
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`13· ·would say that five is the magic number.· I mean,
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`14· ·like, you need to have a number of markers placed
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`15· ·around the interbody to be able to identify the
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`16· ·anterior and posterior aspects of the interbody,
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`17· ·and a -- proximal and distal ends of the interbody.
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`19· · · · Q.· ·Can you identify the anterior and
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`20· ·posterior aspects and proximal and distal ends of
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`21· ·the interbody device body using the marker
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`22· ·configuration in the Timberline?
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`23· · · · A.· ·They have one marker in what I believe
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`24· ·is -- what is their anterior side of their
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`·1· ·markers in what they define as the posterior side
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`·2· ·of their interbody.· But, honestly, that would be a
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`·3· ·little speculative, because based off of the --
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`·4· ·based off of this drawing, based off the image in
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`·5· ·front of me, like, I don't know what they think of
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`·6· ·as the anterior and posterior sides of their
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`·7· ·interbody.
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`·8· · · · Q.· ·So are you saying you --
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`·9· · · · A.· ·There's no indicating feature.
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`10· · · · Q.· ·So you don't know if you would be able to
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`11· ·identify anterior and posterior aspects of the
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`12· ·interbody device using this marker configuration in
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`14· · · · · · ·MS. RAGHAVAN:· Objection.· Form.
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`15· · · · · · ·THE WITNESS:· I don't believe I would be
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`16· ·able to identify on -- from the -- from a -- from
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`17· ·what you would get from a radiographic image, the
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`18· ·cage that is shown here in their surgical
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`19· ·technique, I would not be able to differentiate
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`20· ·anterior versus posterior.
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`22· · · · Q.· ·And the Battalion is designed to be able
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`23· ·to differentiate anterior versus posterior in such
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`24· ·a radiographic image, correct?
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`25· · · · · · ·MS. RAGHAVAN:· Objection.· Form.
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`·1· · · · · · ·THE WITNESS:· I would want to review that
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`·2· ·drawing, but I believe that it would have to do
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`·6· · · · · · ·THE VIDEOGRAPHER:· The time is 11:32 a.m.
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`·7· ·Pacific.· We are off the record.
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`·8· · · · · · ·(Recess taken.)
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`·9· · · · · · ·THE VIDEOGRAPHER:· We're going back on
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`10· ·the record.· The time is 11:40 a.m. Pacific.
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`11· · · · · · ·You may proceed.
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`12· ·BY MS. DEVINE:
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`13· · · · Q.· ·Mr. Robinson, I believe earlier you told
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`14· ·me that Alphatec has a Battalion lateral implant
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`15· ·that only has one window per aperture; is that
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`16· ·right?
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`17· · · · A.· ·That's correct, yes.
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`18· · · · Q.· ·Has Alphatec ever sold that implant with
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`19· ·one aperture?
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`20· · · · A.· ·I believe we have, yes.
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`21· · · · Q.· ·I believe also earlier you told me that
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`22· ·at launch the Battalion lateral implants had five
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`23· ·radiopaque markers; is that right?
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`24· · · · A.· ·I believe that to be true, yes.
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`25· · · · Q.· ·In the 2014 prototypes, how many
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`·1· · · · · · ·I, PATRICIA Y. SCHULER, a Certified
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`·2· ·Shorthand Reporter of the State of California, do
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`·3· ·hereby certify:
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`·4· · · · · · ·That the foregoing proceedings were taken
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`·5· ·before me at the time and place herein set forth;
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`·6· ·that any witnesses in the foregoing proceedings,
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`·7· ·prior to testifying, were duly sworn; that a
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`·8· ·verbatim record of the proceedings was made by me
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`·9· ·using machine shorthand which was thereafter
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`10· ·transcribed under my direction; that the foregoing
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`11· ·transcript is a true record of the testimony given.
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`12· · · · · · ·Further, that if the foregoing pertains
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`13· ·to the original transcript of a deposition in a
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`14· ·Federal Case, before completion of the proceedings,
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`15· ·review of the transcript [X] was [ ] was not
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`16· ·requested.
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`17· · · · · · ·I further certify I am neither
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`18· ·financially interested in the action nor a relative
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`19· ·or employee of any attorney of party to this
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`20· ·action.
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`21· · · · · · ·IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have this date
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`22· ·subscribed my name.
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`23· ·Dated:· November 8, 2020
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`24· · · · · · · · · · · · · _________________________
`· · · · · · · · · · · · · · PATRICIA Y. SCHULER
`25· · · · · · · · · · · · · CSR NO. 11949
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