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`EXHIBIT C
`EXHIBIT C
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`From:
`To:
`Cc:
`Subject:
`
`Date:
`Attachments:
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`McCormick, Patrick Emerson
`Todd Gregorian
`Christopher Lavin
`RE: [23984-00507] PersonalWeb Technologies, LLC et al v. Twitch Interactive, Inc. (closed 10/29/2020) (Doc#
`297, N.D. Cal. 5:18-cv-05619-BLF)
`Tuesday, December 5, 2023 9:18:06 AM
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`** EXTERNAL EMAIL **
`Todd,
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`As a party to the phone call, I am aware of what the Parties discussed. We did not agree to anything
`other than to discuss potential numbers with our clients. Chris agreed to ask Amazon about its
`asserted midpoint of $283,000, and I agreed to ask PersonalWeb about its asserted midpoint of
`$320,000. Neither of us had authority to agree to either of those numbers on behalf of our
`respective clients, and were both very clear on that issue.
`
`Seemingly, Amazon rejected both of those numbers and offered $280,000, per Chris’ email on
`December 1, 2023 at 1:52pm PST below. PersonalWeb has also rejected both those numbers and
`now offers $423,000.
`
`Best,
`Patrick
`
`Patrick Emerson McCormick, CIPP/US
`He|Him|His
`Associate
`Admitted in Arizona, California, and Colorado
`PMcCormick@lewisroca.com
`D. 520.629.4455
`
`From: Todd Gregorian <TGregorian@fenwick.com>
`Sent: Tuesday, December 5, 2023 10:11
`To: McCormick, Patrick Emerson <PMcCormick@lewisroca.com>
`Cc: Christopher Lavin <CLavin@fenwick.com>
`Subject: RE: [23984-00507] PersonalWeb Technologies, LLC et al v. Twitch Interactive, Inc. (closed
`10/29/2020) (Doc# 297, N.D. Cal. 5:18-cv-05619-BLF)
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`CAUTION! [EXTERNAL to Lewis Roca]
`
`Patrick,
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`Amazon did not make an offer of $280k to PersonalWeb. Counsel mutually agreed, for the sake of
`moving past this issue, to determine their respective clients’ willingness to agree to $280k as the
`midpoint between their current numbers. PersonalWeb is of course free to say “no” or take any
`other position it wishes. But it is disappointing to see PersonalWeb misrepresent the negotiating
`history.
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`Todd Gregorian
`Fenwick | Partner | +1 415-875-2402 | tgregorian@fenwick.com
`
`From: McCormick, Patrick Emerson <PMcCormick@lewisroca.com>
`Sent: Tuesday, December 5, 2023 8:36 AM
`To: Todd Gregorian <TGregorian@fenwick.com>
`Cc: Christopher Lavin <CLavin@fenwick.com>
`Subject: RE: [23984-00507] PersonalWeb Technologies, LLC et al v. Twitch Interactive, Inc. (closed
`10/29/2020) (Doc# 297, N.D. Cal. 5:18-cv-05619-BLF)
`
`** EXTERNAL EMAIL **
`Todd,
`
`I understand Amazon’s asserted deadline to respond has passed. PersonalWeb has responded and I
`provide this offer in case there is still time to resolve this informally.
`
`PersonalWeb will stipulate to requesting a reduction of $423,000. This is halfway between $566,000
`—the number PersonalWeb believes it should be based on the entries it has submitted to the Court
`—and Amazon’s offer of $280,000.
`
`PersonalWeb does not find Amazon’s argument that these entries were incurred for reasons other
`than alter ego claims convincing, as no other reasons are given in Amazon’s entries or briefs
`submitted to the Court. Nor does PersonalWeb find Amazon’s claim that a certain percentage of
`these can just be summarily discounted, just as the Court rejected a broad percentage application.
`That said, PersonalWeb is willing to resolve this informally at a number closer to what it believes the
`Court should grant.
`
`Best,
`Patrick
`
`Patrick Emerson McCormick, CIPP/US
`He|Him|His
`Associate
`Admitted in Arizona, California, and Colorado
`
`PMcCormick@lewisroca.com
`D. 520.629.4455
`
`-----Original Message-----
`From: Todd Gregorian <TGregorian@fenwick.com>
`Sent: Monday, December 4, 2023 12:42
`To: McCormick, Patrick Emerson <PMcCormick@lewisroca.com>
`Cc: Christopher Lavin <CLavin@fenwick.com>
`Subject: Re: [23984-00507] PersonalWeb Technologies, LLC et al v. Twitch Interactive, Inc. (closed
`10/29/2020) (Doc# 297, N.D. Cal. 5:18-cv-05619-BLF)
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`CAUTION! [EXTERNAL to Lewis Roca]
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`Patrick
`Please let us know by 4pm today whether there is an agreement to $280k as the amount, and if so
`provide a stipulation. Absent an agreement we will file our opposition brief.
`
`thanks,
`-t
`
`On Dec 4, 2023, at 11:36 AM, McCormick, Patrick Emerson <PMcCormick@lewisroca.com> wrote:
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`** EXTERNAL EMAIL **
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`Chris,
`
` I
`
` do not have a response from PersonalWeb to Amazon’s offer yet. I will let you know as soon as I
`have any response.
`
`Best,
`Patrick
`
`Patrick Emerson McCormick, CIPP/US
`He|Him|His
`Associate
`Admitted in Arizona, California, and Colorado <image001.png>
`PMcCormick@lewisroca.com<mailto:PMcCormick@lewisroca.com>
`D. 520.629.4455
`<image002.png>
`
`
`From: Christopher Lavin <CLavin@fenwick.com>
`Sent: Monday, December 4, 2023 09:43
`To: McCormick, Patrick Emerson <PMcCormick@lewisroca.com>; Todd Gregorian
`<TGregorian@fenwick.com>
`Subject: RE: [23984-00507] PersonalWeb Technologies, LLC et al v. Twitch Interactive, Inc. (closed
`10/29/2020) (Doc# 297, N.D. Cal. 5:18-cv-05619-BLF)
`
`CAUTION! [EXTERNAL to Lewis Roca]
`________________________________
`Patrick,
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`Please let us know whether you’ve been able to connect with PersonalWeb on the stipulated fees
`amount since Friday, and if, not, when you expect to.
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`

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`Regards,
`Chris
`
`Chris Lavin
`Fenwick | Associate | +1 415-875-2287 | CLavin@fenwick.com<mailto:>
`
`From: Christopher Lavin
`Sent: Friday, December 1, 2023 2:50 PM
`To: McCormick, Patrick Emerson <PMcCormick@lewisroca.com>; Todd Gregorian
`<TGregorian@fenwick.com>
`Subject: RE: [23984-00507] PersonalWeb Technologies, LLC et al v. Twitch Interactive, Inc. (closed
`10/29/2020) (Doc# 297, N.D. Cal. 5:18-cv-05619-BLF)
`
`Thanks, Patrick, we’re filing now.
`
`Chris Lavin
`Fenwick | Associate | +1 415-875-2287 | CLavin@fenwick.com<mailto:>
`
`From: McCormick, Patrick Emerson
`<PMcCormick@lewisroca.com<mailto:PMcCormick@lewisroca.com>>
`Sent: Friday, December 1, 2023 2:40 PM
`To: Christopher Lavin <CLavin@fenwick.com<mailto:CLavin@fenwick.com>>; Todd Gregorian
`<TGregorian@fenwick.com<mailto:TGregorian@fenwick.com>>
`Subject: RE: [23984-00507] PersonalWeb Technologies, LLC et al v. Twitch Interactive, Inc. (closed
`10/29/2020) (Doc# 297, N.D. Cal. 5:18-cv-05619-BLF)
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`** EXTERNAL EMAIL **
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` consent. Thank you.
`
` I
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`
`
`Patrick Emerson McCormick, CIPP/US
`He|Him|His
`Associate
`Admitted in Arizona, California, and Colorado <image001.png>
`PMcCormick@lewisroca.com<mailto:PMcCormick@lewisroca.com>
`D. 520.629.4455
`<image002.png>
`
`
`From: Christopher Lavin <CLavin@fenwick.com<mailto:CLavin@fenwick.com>>
`Sent: Friday, December 1, 2023 15:36
`To: McCormick, Patrick Emerson
`<PMcCormick@lewisroca.com<mailto:PMcCormick@lewisroca.com>>; Todd Gregorian
`
`

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`<TGregorian@fenwick.com<mailto:TGregorian@fenwick.com>>
`Subject: RE: [23984-00507] PersonalWeb Technologies, LLC et al v. Twitch Interactive, Inc. (closed
`10/29/2020) (Doc# 297, N.D. Cal. 5:18-cv-05619-BLF)
`
`CAUTION! [EXTERNAL to Lewis Roca]
`________________________________
`Patrick,
`
`I attach a draft stipulation extending the deadline.
`
`Please confirm that you consent to filing.
`
`Thanks,
`Chris
`
`Chris Lavin
`Fenwick | Associate | +1 415-875-2287 | CLavin@fenwick.com<mailto:>
`
`From: McCormick, Patrick Emerson
`<PMcCormick@lewisroca.com<mailto:PMcCormick@lewisroca.com>>
`Sent: Friday, December 1, 2023 1:57 PM
`To: Christopher Lavin <CLavin@fenwick.com<mailto:CLavin@fenwick.com>>; Todd Gregorian
`<TGregorian@fenwick.com<mailto:TGregorian@fenwick.com>>
`Subject: RE: [23984-00507] PersonalWeb Technologies, LLC et al v. Twitch Interactive, Inc. (closed
`10/29/2020) (Doc# 297, N.D. Cal. 5:18-cv-05619-BLF)
`
`** EXTERNAL EMAIL **
`
`Chris, sorry for the delay. I have been unable to get in contact with my client since we spoke. If you
`would like to ask the Court for another extension, PersonalWeb will not object.
`
`Patrick Emerson McCormick, CIPP/US
`He|Him|His
`Associate
`Admitted in Arizona, California, and Colorado <image001.png>
`PMcCormick@lewisroca.com<mailto:PMcCormick@lewisroca.com>
`D. 520.629.4455
`<image002.png>
`
`
`From: Christopher Lavin <CLavin@fenwick.com<mailto:CLavin@fenwick.com>>
`Sent: Friday, December 1, 2023 14:52
`To: McCormick, Patrick Emerson
`<PMcCormick@lewisroca.com<mailto:PMcCormick@lewisroca.com>>; Todd Gregorian
`<TGregorian@fenwick.com<mailto:TGregorian@fenwick.com>>
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`

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`Subject: RE: [23984-00507] PersonalWeb Technologies, LLC et al v. Twitch Interactive, Inc. (closed
`10/29/2020) (Doc# 297, N.D. Cal. 5:18-cv-05619-BLF)
`
`CAUTION! [EXTERNAL to Lewis Roca]
`________________________________
`Patrick,
`
`Following up on my voicemails, we can offer that if the Court sustains PersonalWeb’s objection, then
`the court would deduct $280,000. Please let me know if we can reach an agreement.
`
`If we don’t hear from you by 3 PM PT, we’ll proceed with filing our response and providing the court
`with our sample calculation.
`
`Regards
`Chris
`
`Chris Lavin
`Fenwick | Associate | +1 415-875-2287 | CLavin@fenwick.com<mailto:>
`
`From: Christopher Lavin
`Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2023 5:15 PM
`To: McCormick, Patrick Emerson
`<PMcCormick@lewisroca.com<mailto:PMcCormick@lewisroca.com>>; Todd Gregorian
`<TGregorian@fenwick.com<mailto:TGregorian@fenwick.com>>
`Subject: RE: [23984-00507] PersonalWeb Technologies, LLC et al v. Twitch Interactive, Inc. (closed
`10/29/2020) (Doc# 297, N.D. Cal. 5:18-cv-05619-BLF)
`
`Patrick,
`
`I’ll call your office line to discuss tomorrow at 9:30 AM PT.
`
`Regards,
`Chris
`
`Chris Lavin
`Fenwick | Associate | +1 415-875-2287 | CLavin@fenwick.com<mailto:>
`
`From: McCormick, Patrick Emerson
`<PMcCormick@lewisroca.com<mailto:PMcCormick@lewisroca.com>>
`Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2023 3:36 PM
`To: Todd Gregorian <TGregorian@fenwick.com<mailto:TGregorian@fenwick.com>>; Christopher
`Lavin <CLavin@fenwick.com<mailto:CLavin@fenwick.com>>
`Subject: RE: [23984-00507] PersonalWeb Technologies, LLC et al v. Twitch Interactive, Inc. (closed
`10/29/2020) (Doc# 297, N.D. Cal. 5:18-cv-05619-BLF)
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`** EXTERNAL EMAIL **
`Todd, I'm always open to discussion, but I'm not available to hop on a call today until 7:30 PST. I can
`chat anytime after that. I'm also available tomorrow from 8am-10:30am PST tomorrow.
`
`If that works for you, we can discuss item #2 on the call. If not, I'll respond via email this evening.
`
`Sent from my mobile device
`
`-------- Original message --------
`From: Todd Gregorian <TGregorian@fenwick.com<mailto:TGregorian@fenwick.com>>
`Date: 11/30/23 16:27 (GMT-07:00)
`To: "McCormick, Patrick Emerson"
`<PMcCormick@lewisroca.com<mailto:PMcCormick@lewisroca.com>>, Christopher Lavin
`<CLavin@fenwick.com<mailto:CLavin@fenwick.com>>
`Subject: RE: [23984-00507] PersonalWeb Technologies, LLC et al v. Twitch Interactive, Inc. (closed
`10/29/2020) (Doc# 297, N.D. Cal. 5:18-cv-05619-BLF)
`
`CAUTION! [EXTERNAL to Lewis Roca]
`________________________________
`Thanks Patrick. A couple thoughts:
`
`
` 1. Do you think it would be fruitful to have a discussion of why these fees were incurred pursuing a
`range of judgment enforcement tasks? Your remarks at the hearing made clear that you already
`understood that, and thus it looks to us like PersonalWeb is just pushing to exclude anything that it
`can characterize as relevant or useful to a separate alter ego case, regardless of its actual intended
`purpose or other potential uses. So it may be that hearing more from us isn’t really going to change
`views. But we could walk through the arguments if you thought that would help. I also assume that
`if PersonalWeb had authority for its position, it would have argued it in the supplemental
`opposition. We are open to considering any that you have.
`
`
`
` 1. If we treat this just as an exercise in reaching a number to reduce appeal risk and work for the
`Court, is there interest on PersonalWeb’s side in walking to some middle point for the sake of that
`compromise? Assume that number would not be very close to either $77k or $501k.
`
`Todd Gregorian
`Fenwick | Partner | +1 415-875-2402 | tgregorian@fenwick.com<mailto:>
`
`From: McCormick, Patrick Emerson
`<PMcCormick@lewisroca.com<mailto:PMcCormick@lewisroca.com>>
`Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2023 3:11 PM
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`

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`To: Christopher Lavin <CLavin@fenwick.com<mailto:CLavin@fenwick.com>>; Todd Gregorian
`<TGregorian@fenwick.com<mailto:TGregorian@fenwick.com>>
`Subject: RE: [23984-00507] PersonalWeb Technologies, LLC et al v. Twitch Interactive, Inc. (closed
`10/29/2020) (Doc# 297, N.D. Cal. 5:18-cv-05619-BLF)
`
`** EXTERNAL EMAIL **
`
`Chris,
`
`Thank you for clarifying. In that case, PersonalWeb rejects Amazon’s proffered amount.
`PersonalWeb’s offer to stipulate to $501,581.10 stands.
`
`Best,
`Patrick
`
`Patrick Emerson McCormick, CIPP/US
`He|Him|His
`Associate
`Admitted in Arizona, California, and Colorado <image001.png>
`PMcCormick@lewisroca.com<mailto:PMcCormick@lewisroca.com>
`D. 520.629.4455
`<image002.png>
`
`
`From: Christopher Lavin <CLavin@fenwick.com<mailto:CLavin@fenwick.com>>
`Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2023 15:14
`To: McCormick, Patrick Emerson
`<PMcCormick@lewisroca.com<mailto:PMcCormick@lewisroca.com>>; Todd Gregorian
`<TGregorian@fenwick.com<mailto:TGregorian@fenwick.com>>
`Subject: RE: [23984-00507] PersonalWeb Technologies, LLC et al v. Twitch Interactive, Inc. (closed
`10/29/2020) (Doc# 297, N.D. Cal. 5:18-cv-05619-BLF)
`
`CAUTION! [EXTERNAL to Lewis Roca]
`________________________________
`Patrick,
`
`Thanks for the counter-proposal.
`
`Our proposal was couched as the opposite – that if the Court sustains PersonalWeb’s objection, then
`Amazon would recover only $491,534.86, rather than the $566,411.51 of the billing entries at issue.
`In other words, Amazon would forfeit $74,876.65 in fees – whereas your proposal is that Amazon
`forfeits $501,581.10 in fees, which Amazon cannot agree to.
`
`To expand on our methodology for the sample calculation, we partially discounted the document
`review entries (Category 1) to account for that some of that review would be relevant to alter ego.
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`And we applied a complete discount to the alter ego entries (Category 2) that facially appear
`directed only to alter ego, even though we do not concede those are not recoverable.
`
`We remain open to further proposals.
`Regards,
`Chris
`
`Chris Lavin
`Fenwick | Associate | +1 415-875-2287 | CLavin@fenwick.com<mailto:>
`
`From: McCormick, Patrick Emerson
`<PMcCormick@lewisroca.com<mailto:PMcCormick@lewisroca.com>>
`Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2023 12:39 PM
`To: Christopher Lavin <CLavin@fenwick.com<mailto:CLavin@fenwick.com>>; Todd Gregorian
`<TGregorian@fenwick.com<mailto:TGregorian@fenwick.com>>
`Subject: RE: [23984-00507] PersonalWeb Technologies, LLC et al v. Twitch Interactive, Inc. (closed
`10/29/2020) (Doc# 297, N.D. Cal. 5:18-cv-05619-BLF)
`
`** EXTERNAL EMAIL **
`
`Chris,
`
`Thank you again for this.
`
`PersonalWeb disagrees with the categorization of these fees and the general discount applied to the
`document review entries. Of particular confusion is Amazon’s complete removal of entries explicitly
`dealing with alter ego issues (Category 2).
`
`If Amazon will agree to not exclude the fees in Category 2, which would bring the total to
`$501,581.10, PersonalWeb will stipulate to that number. This is with the qualification that
`PersonalWeb is strictly agreeing to that number and not the methodology by which Amazon arrived
`at that amount.
`
`If Amazon will stipulate to $501,581.10 for the amount of denied attorneys’ fees in the event the
`Court holds that Amazon cannot recover for its fees incurred in pursuit of alter ego claims, then we
`can move forward with preparing a stipulation.
`
`Best,
`Patrick
`
`Patrick Emerson McCormick, CIPP/US
`He|Him|His
`Associate
`Admitted in Arizona, California, and Colorado <image001.png>
`PMcCormick@lewisroca.com<mailto:PMcCormick@lewisroca.com>
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`D. 520.629.4455
`<image002.png>
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`From: McCormick, Patrick Emerson
`Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2023 08:38
`To: 'Christopher Lavin' <CLavin@fenwick.com<mailto:CLavin@fenwick.com>>; Todd Gregorian
`<TGregorian@fenwick.com<mailto:TGregorian@fenwick.com>>
`Subject: RE: [23984-00507] PersonalWeb Technologies, LLC et al v. Twitch Interactive, Inc. (closed
`10/29/2020) (Doc# 297, N.D. Cal. 5:18-cv-05619-BLF)
`
`
`Thank you, Chris. I informed PersonalWeb of Amazon’s offer shortly after receiving your email last
`night. I will let you know as soon as I have a response.
`
`Patrick Emerson McCormick, CIPP/US
`He|Him|His
`Associate
`Admitted in Arizona, California, and Colorado <image001.png>
`PMcCormick@lewisroca.com<mailto:PMcCormick@lewisroca.com>
`D. 520.629.4455
`<image002.png>
`
`
`From: Christopher Lavin <CLavin@fenwick.com<mailto:CLavin@fenwick.com>>
`Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2023 17:40
`To: McCormick, Patrick Emerson
`<PMcCormick@lewisroca.com<mailto:PMcCormick@lewisroca.com>>; Todd Gregorian
`<TGregorian@fenwick.com<mailto:TGregorian@fenwick.com>>
`Subject: RE: [23984-00507] PersonalWeb Technologies, LLC et al v. Twitch Interactive, Inc. (closed
`10/29/2020) (Doc# 297, N.D. Cal. 5:18-cv-05619-BLF)
`
`CAUTION! [EXTERNAL to Lewis Roca]
`________________________________
`Patrick,
`
`In the interest of trying to work toward a compromise on the disputed billing entries, we provide a
`method for a possible discount and a sample calculation.
`
`What we’ve done is taken your spreadsheet, breaking the disputed billing entries into 3 categories,
`(1) doc review entries, (2) alter ego entries, and (3) all other entries that are not (1) or (2). We
`propose that if the Court sustains PersonalWeb’s objection, then Amazon would recover only 70% of
`(1) ($151,270.96), 0% of (2) ($0), and 100% of (3) ($340,263.90), arriving at an overall $491,534.86
`recovery on the $566,411.51 of the billing entries at issue (~13% discount).
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`Please let us know your thoughts or if you would like to discuss.
`
`Regards,
`Chris
`
`Chris Lavin
`Fenwick | Associate | +1 415-875-2287 | CLavin@fenwick.com<mailto:>
`
`
`
`-----Original Message-----
`From: McCormick, Patrick Emerson
`PMcCormick@lewisroca.com<mailto:PMcCormick@lewisroca.com>
`Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2023 12:37 PM
`To: Todd Gregorian TGregorian@fenwick.com<mailto:TGregorian@fenwick.com>
`Cc: Christopher Lavin CLavin@fenwick.com<mailto:CLavin@fenwick.com>
`Subject: RE: [23984-00507] PersonalWeb Technologies, LLC et al v. Twitch Interactive, Inc. (closed
`10/29/2020) (Doc# 297, N.D. Cal. 5:18-cv-05619-BLF)
`
`
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`** EXTERNAL EMAIL **
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`
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`That's correct, no petition for a rehearing en banc.
`
`
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`Patrick Emerson McCormick, CIPP/US
`
`He|Him|His
`
`Associate
`
`Admitted in Arizona, California, and Colorado
`
`
`
`PMcCormick@lewisroca.com<mailto:PMcCormick@lewisroca.com>
`
`D. 520.629.4455
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`-----Original Message-----
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`From: Todd Gregorian <TGregorian@fenwick.com<mailto:TGregorian@fenwick.com>>
`
`Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2023 13:37
`
`To: McCormick, Patrick Emerson
`<PMcCormick@lewisroca.com<mailto:PMcCormick@lewisroca.com>>
`
`Cc: Christopher Lavin <CLavin@fenwick.com<mailto:CLavin@fenwick.com>>
`
`Subject: Re: [23984-00507] PersonalWeb Technologies, LLC et al v. Twitch Interactive, Inc. (closed
`10/29/2020) (Doc# 297, N.D. Cal. 5:18-cv-05619-BLF)
`
`
`
`CAUTION! [EXTERNAL to Lewis Roca]
`
`
`
`Thanks. To clarify: also no petition for rehearing en banc?
`
`
`
`
`
`
`
`
`
`On Nov 29, 2023, at 11:31 AM, McCormick, Patrick Emerson
`<PMcCormick@lewisroca.com<mailto:PMcCormick@lewisroca.com>> wrote:
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`** EXTERNAL EMAIL **
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`Todd,
`
`PersonalWeb will not petition for a panel rehearing of the November 3, 2023 Federal Circuit opinion.
`I will file a notice with the Court today informing it of the same.
`
`PersonalWeb is still considering Amazon’s offer regarding a stipulation of the amount of attorneys’
`fees attributable to alter ego claims. I will give you PersonalWeb’s response as soon as I have it.
`
`Best,
`
`Patrick
`
`Patrick Emerson McCormick, CIPP/US
`
`He|Him|His
`
`Associate
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`Admitted in Arizona, California, and Colorado <image001.png>
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`From: Todd Gregorian <TGregorian@fenwick.com<mailto:TGregorian@fenwick.com>>
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`Sent: Monday, November 27, 2023 15:05
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`To: McCormick, Patrick Emerson
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`Cc: Christopher Lavin <CLavin@fenwick.com<mailto:CLavin@fenwick.com>>
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`Subject: Re: [23984-00507] PersonalWeb Technologies, LLC et al v. Twitch Interactive, Inc. (closed
`10/29/2020) (Doc# 297, N.D. Cal. 5:18-cv-05619-BLF)
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`On Nov 27, 2023, at 1:57 PM, McCormick, Patrick Emerson
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`Todd,
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`Thank you, it was a wonderful Thanksgiving. I hope yours was, too.
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`I will let you know as soon as I have a definitive response on behalf of PersonalWeb.
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`From: Todd Gregorian
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`mailto:TGregorian@fenwick.com>>>
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`Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2023 17:29
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`To: McCormick, Patrick Emerson
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`com%3cmailto:PMcCormick@lewisroca.com>>>
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`Cc: Christopher Lavin
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`Subject: RE: [23984-00507] PersonalWeb Technologies, LLC et al v. Twitch Interactive, Inc. (closed
`10/29/2020) (Doc# 297, N.D. Cal. 5:18-cv-05619-BLF)
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`Patrick,
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` hope you had a nice holiday. I am following up on my request from Wednesday morning. Amazon
`has made a proposal; the Court instructed us to continue to attempt to resolve this issue. Please
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`Todd Gregorian
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`Fenwick | Partner | +1 415-875-2402 |
`tgregorian@fenwick.com<mailto<mailto:tgregorian@fenwick.com%3cmailto<mailto:tgregorian@fe
`nwick.com%3cmailto%3cmailto:tgregorian@fenwick.com%3cmailto>>:>
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`From: Todd Gregorian
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`Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2023 9:04 AM
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`To: McCormick, Patrick Emerson
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`com%3cmailto:PMcCormick@lewisroca.com>>>
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`Cc: Christopher Lavin
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`Subject: FW: [23984-00507] PersonalWeb Technologies, LLC et al v. Twitch Interactive, Inc. (closed
`10/29/2020) (Doc# 297, N.D. Cal. 5:18-cv-05619-BLF)
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`Patrick,
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`Let me know what PersonalWeb proposes. Thanks,
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`Todd Gregorian
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`Fenwick | Partner | +1 415-875-2402 |
`tgregorian@fenwick.com<mailto<mailto:tgregorian@fenwick.com%3cmailto<mailto:tgregorian@fe
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`mailto:TGregorian@fenwick.com<mailto:TGregorian@fenwick.com%3cmailto:TGregorian@fenwick.
`com%3cmailto:TGregorian@fenwick.com%3cmailto:TGregorian@fenwick.com>>>>; Lauren Mayo
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