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`Gunther, Jarrad M.
`From:
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`McGrath, Robin
`Thursday, April 2, 2020 6:51 PM
`Hannah, James
`Dotson, David C.; Gunther, Jarrad M.
`RE: DRAFT: Finjan's Third Supplemental Infringement Contentions
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`James,
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`Based on our calls this afternoon and on 3/31 regarding Finjan’s Third Amended Infringement Contentions (“Third
`Contentions”), we understand that:
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`1. Finjan’s Third Contentions are the operative contentions and Finjan will not be relying on any aspect of Finjan’s
`Second Amended Infringement Contentions;
`2. Finjan is not relying on any of the theories previously identified in Appendices C1, C5, J1, or J5 which were not
`included in the Third Contentions;
`3. Finjan is withdrawing Appendices H1 and H5 as redundant with its charts for Capture alone;
`4. For Appendices H2‐H4, Finjan will be providing amended language to address the “transmitting . . . when” limitation.
`SonicWall will reserve judgment as to whether Finjan’s contentions satisfy the Nov. 20 order until it has an opportunity
`to review the amended language;
`5. Finjan will be amending Appendix A‐1 (p. 17) to make clear it is not identifying the GRID data center;
`6. Finjan will be amending Appendix A‐5 to clarify that it is identifying GRID AV, a component Finjan contends is
`physically on the box, and not the GRID network data center;
`7. Finjan will withdraw Appendix H‐3 as redundant of the capture alone theory.
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`If you believe we have misunderstood any of the foregoing, please advise immediately.
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`Robin
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`On Mar 19, 2020, at 7:11 PM, Hannah, James <JHannah@kramerlevin.com> wrote:
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`Monday at 2pm PT works for us.
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`James Hannah
`Partner
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`Kramer Levin Naftalis & Frankel LLP
`990 Marsh Road, Menlo Park, California 94025
`T 650.752.1712 F 650.752.1812
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`This communication (including any attachments) is intended solely for the recipient(s) named above and may contain
`information that is confidential, privileged or legally protected. Any unauthorized use or dissemination of this communication is
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`Case 5:17-cv-04467-BLF Document 332-2 Filed 12/22/20 Page 3 of 6
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`From: McGrath, Robin <RLMcGrath@duanemorris.com>
`Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2020 1:40 PM
`To: Hannah, James <JHannah@KRAMERLEVIN.com>
`Cc: Nguyen, Stephanie <SNguyen@KRAMERLEVIN.com>; Lee, Hannah <HLee@KRAMERLEVIN.com>;
`Andre, Paul <PAndre@KRAMERLEVIN.com>; Kastens, Kris <KKastens@KRAMERLEVIN.com>; Kobialka,
`Lisa <LKobialka@KRAMERLEVIN.com>; Gaudet, Matthew C. <MCGaudet@duanemorris.com>; Dotson,
`David C. <DCDotson@duanemorris.com>; Powers, Joseph A. <JAPowers@duanemorris.com>; Gunther,
`Jarrad M. <JMGunther@duanemorris.com>; Forte, Jennifer H. <JHForte@duanemorris.com>; Snedeker,
`Alice <AESnedeker@duanemorris.com>
`Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: DRAFT: Finjan's Third Supplemental Infringement Contentions
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`Finjan team:
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`Please let us know when you are available to meet and confer on the issues raised below.
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`From: McGrath, Robin
`Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 11:16 AM
`To: JHannah@KRAMERLEVIN.com
`Cc: SNguyen@KRAMERLEVIN.com; HLee@KRAMERLEVIN.com; PAndre@KRAMERLEVIN.com;
`KKastens@KRAMERLEVIN.com; LKobialka@KRAMERLEVIN.com; Gaudet, Matthew C.
`<MCGaudet@duanemorris.com>; Dotson, David C. <DCDotson@duanemorris.com>; Powers, Joseph A.
`<JAPowers@duanemorris.com>; Gunther, Jarrad M. <JMGunther@duanemorris.com>; Forte, Jennifer H.
`<JHForte@duanemorris.com>; Snedeker, Alice <AESnedeker@duanemorris.com>
`Subject: FW: DRAFT: Finjan's Third Supplemental Infringement Contentions
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`James, now that we have received an order denying Finjan’s motion for leave to amend its contentions,
`we would like to schedule a meet and confer to discuss the numerous issues with Finjan’s third
`amended infringement contentions. In addition to the issues identified in my Dec, 17 email below, we
`would also like to discuss:
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` For the ’154 Patent, the Court’s Nov. 20 Order required Finjan to revise its infringement
`contentions to make explicit whether and how the accused instrumentalities meet the
`‘transmitting . . . when’ portion of limitation 1c of claim 1.” Appendices H‐1 through H‐5 do not
`satisfy this requirement. At most, some of the charts simply cite to source code. Others don’t
`even do that.
` Page 17 of Appendix A‐1 identifies the GRID data center. Per the Court’s Nov. 20 order, however,
`Finjan should not be identifying anything other than what is on the “box.”
` Appendix A‐5 (ESA) also identifies a SonicWall hosted ESA and GRID network data center. Again,
`Finjan should not be identifying anything other than what is on the box.
` Finjan’s third infringement contentions does not contain charts labeled C1, C5, J1, or J5. Can you
`confirm that you are dropping those theories and not continuing to rely on the previous
`operable version?
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`Please let us know a time this week when you are available to discuss.
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`Thank you,
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`Robin
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`From: Hannah, James <JHannah@KRAMERLEVIN.com>
`Sent: Monday, January 6, 2020 12:03 PM
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`To: McGrath, Robin <RLMcGrath@duanemorris.com>
`Cc: Nguyen, Stephanie <SNguyen@KRAMERLEVIN.com>; Lee, Hannah <HLee@KRAMERLEVIN.com>;
`Andre, Paul <PAndre@KRAMERLEVIN.com>; Kastens, Kris <KKastens@KRAMERLEVIN.com>; Kobialka,
`Lisa <LKobialka@KRAMERLEVIN.com>; Gaudet, Matthew C. <MCGaudet@duanemorris.com>; Dotson,
`David C. <DCDotson@duanemorris.com>; Powers, Joseph A. <JAPowers@duanemorris.com>; Gunther,
`Jarrad M. <JMGunther@duanemorris.com>; Forte, Jennifer H. <JHForte@duanemorris.com>
`Subject: RE: Finjan's Third Supplemental Infringement Contentions
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`Hi Robin, Happy New Year. I think it makes more sense to address these after resolution of the currently
`pending motion because most, if not all of them, may be moot. If any issues remain after the Court
`hears our motion, I’d be happy to meet and confer. Thanks.
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`James Hannah
`Partner
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`Kramer Levin Naftalis & Frankel LLP
`990 Marsh Road, Menlo Park, California 94025
`T 650.752.1712 F 650.752.1812
`jhannah@kramerlevin.com
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`Bio
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`This communication (including any attachments) is intended solely for the recipient(s) named above and may contain
`information that is confidential, privileged or legally protected. Any unauthorized use or dissemination of this communication is
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`message and delete all copies of the original communication. Thank you for your cooperation.
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`From: McGrath, Robin <RLMcGrath@duanemorris.com>
`Sent: Monday, January 6, 2020 7:23 AM
`To: Hannah, James <JHannah@KRAMERLEVIN.com>
`Cc: Nguyen, Stephanie <SNguyen@KRAMERLEVIN.com>; Lee, Hannah <HLee@KRAMERLEVIN.com>;
`Andre, Paul <PAndre@KRAMERLEVIN.com>; Kastens, Kris <KKastens@KRAMERLEVIN.com>; Kobialka,
`Lisa <LKobialka@KRAMERLEVIN.com>; Gaudet, Matthew C. <MCGaudet@duanemorris.com>; Dotson,
`David C. <DCDotson@duanemorris.com>; Powers, Joseph A. <JAPowers@duanemorris.com>; Gunther,
`Jarrad M. <JMGunther@duanemorris.com>; Forte, Jennifer H. <JHForte@duanemorris.com>
`Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: Finjan's Third Supplemental Infringement Contentions
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`Happy New Year James. Can you please let us know when you are available for a meet and confer on the
`issues raised below?
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`Thank you,
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`Robin
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`From: McGrath, Robin
`Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2019 12:03 PM
`To: Hannah, James <JHannah@KRAMERLEVIN.com>
`Cc: 'Nguyen, Stephanie' <SNguyen@KRAMERLEVIN.com>; Lee, Hannah <HLee@KRAMERLEVIN.com>;
`Andre, Paul <PAndre@KRAMERLEVIN.com>; Kastens, Kris <KKastens@KRAMERLEVIN.com>; Kobialka,
`Lisa <LKobialka@KRAMERLEVIN.com>; Gaudet, Matthew C. <MCGaudet@duanemorris.com>; Dotson,
`David C. <DCDotson@duanemorris.com>; Powers, Joseph A. <JAPowers@duanemorris.com>; Gunther,
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`Jarrad M. <JMGunther@duanemorris.com>; Forte, Jennifer H. <JHForte@duanemorris.com>
`Subject: Finjan's Third Supplemental Infringement Contentions
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`James – we have reviewed Finjan’s Third Supplemental Infringement Contentions and believe that a
`number of charts do not comply with the Court’s Order striking Finjan’s Second Supplemental
`Infringement Contentions. Specifically:
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` Appendices H‐1 and H‐5 chart Finjan’s gateway and ESA “alone” theories, respectively, for the ’154
`Patent. In Finjan’s Second Supplemental Infringement Contentions, Finjan’s gateway and ESA
`alone charts each asserted that the claimed “security computer” is satisfied by the Cloud AV and
`GRID sandboxes, both of which have been stricken from Finjan’s Contentions by the Court’s
`November 20 Order. In light of the Court’s Order, Finjan does not have any gateway or ESA
`alone theory that has been previously disclosed. Upon review of the current versions of H‐1 and
`H‐5, it appears that all Finjan did was remove the reference to the Cloud AV and GRID sandbox
`and instead, simply refer generically to a “security computer” without identifying which
`component constitutes the security computer. To the extent Finjan contends that the security
`computer is satisfied by the Cloud AV and GRIDS sandboxes, Appendices H‐1 and ‐5 are in
`violation of the Court’s Nov. 20 Order and must be withdrawn. To the extent Finjan contends
`the security computer is satisfied by a different component, please (i) identify which
`component(s) within the gateway and ESA devices Finjan contends is the security computer; and
`(ii) identify where in its First Supplemental Contentions Finjan identified that component as the
`security computer.
` Appendix A‐5 is a ESA alone chart for the ’844 patent. A‐5 identifies “GRID Anti‐Virus” for a number
`of limitations. Finjan’s First Supplemental Contentions, however, only identify an “ESA with
`Capture ATP” theory and no ESA alone theory. Additionally, the Court’s November 20 Order
`makes clear the any reliance “on claim limitations met by cloud‐based components, such as the
`Cloud AV and GRID sandboxes, [] are outside the scope of the amendments permitted in the
`Court’s May 2019 order. . . .” Thus the Court ordered FInjan to “re‐serve its Gateway‐only and
`ESA‐only disclosures to eliminate contentions that certain limitations are met by cloud based
`resources of components.” Finjan’s reliance on GRID Ant‐Virus to satisfy claim limitations in the
`’844 patent does not comply with the Court’s Nov. 20 Order. Thus, Finjan should withdraw
`Appendix A‐5.
` Appendix H‐3 is a Capture ATP chart for the ’154 Patent. In H‐3, Finjan alleges that the stats server
`is the claimed security computer. Finjan’s First Supplemental Contentions did not identify the
`stats server as the security computer. The Court’s November 20 Order rejected Finjan’s
`assertion that the “Stats server is a component of the Gateway instrumentality,” finding that
`“the Stats server and URL Thumbprint Database are separate from the Gateway and ESA
`instrumentalities.” Finjan did not have leave to amend its contentions to identify the stats server
`and thus Finjan should withdraw Appendix H‐3.
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`Please confirm that Finjan will withdraw Appendices H‐1, H‐5, A‐5, and H‐3 or provide a date for the
`parties to meet and confer.
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