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`Sincerely,
`Kris
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`From: Glucoft, Josh <JGlucoft@irell.com>
`Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2019 9:42 AM
`To: Kastens, Kris <KKastens@KRAMERLEVIN.com>
`Cc: Andre, Paul <PAndre@KRAMERLEVIN.com>; Caire, Yuridia <YCaire@KRAMERLEVIN.com>; Hannah, James
`<JHannah@KRAMERLEVIN.com>; Hedvat, Shannon H. <SHedvat@KRAMERLEVIN.com>; Kobialka, Lisa
`<LKobialka@KRAMERLEVIN.com>; Lee, Hannah <HLee@KRAMERLEVIN.com>; Lee, Michael H.
`<MHLee@KRAMERLEVIN.com>; Manes, Austin <AManes@KRAMERLEVIN.com>; Martinez, Cristina
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`From: Kastens, Kris
`Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2019 3:01 PM
`To: 'Glucoft, Josh' <JGlucoft@irell.com>
`Cc: Andre, Paul <PAndre@KRAMERLEVIN.com>; Caire, Yuridia <YCaire@KRAMERLEVIN.com>; Hannah, James
`<JHannah@KRAMERLEVIN.com>; Hedvat, Shannon H. <SHedvat@KRAMERLEVIN.com>; Kobialka, Lisa
`<LKobialka@KRAMERLEVIN.com>; Lee, Hannah <HLee@KRAMERLEVIN.com>; Lee, Michael H.
`<MHLee@KRAMERLEVIN.com>; Manes, Austin <AManes@KRAMERLEVIN.com>; Martinez, Cristina
`<CMartinez@KRAMERLEVIN.com>; Nguyen, Stephanie <SNguyen@KRAMERLEVIN.com>; Xu, Linda
`<LXu@KRAMERLEVIN.com>; Carson, Rebecca <RCarson@irell.com>; Curran, Casey <ccurran@irell.com>; Heinrich, Alan
`<AHeinrich@irell.com>; Holland, Eileen <EHolland@irell.com>; Isaac, Shawana <SIsaac@irell.com>; Kagan, Jonathan
`<JKagan@irell.com>; Manzano, Jim <JManzano@irell.com>; Petersen, Ingrid <ipetersen@irell.com>; Quarnstrom, Brian
`<BQuarnstrom@irell.com>; Theilacker, Leah <LTheilacker@irell.com>; Wang, Kevin <kwang@irell.com>
`Subject: RE: Meet and confer / Mitzenmacher Deposition
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`Josh,
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`Finjan requests that we also meet and confer regarding Juniper’s late production of documents about
`particular, Juniper did not produce documents showing
` until February 4, 2019, despite the fact that these documents were requested a year ago.
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`<CMartinez@KRAMERLEVIN.com>; Nguyen, Stephanie <SNguyen@KRAMERLEVIN.com>; Xu, Linda
`<LXu@KRAMERLEVIN.com>; Carson, Rebecca <RCarson@irell.com>; Curran, Casey <ccurran@irell.com>; Heinrich, Alan
`<AHeinrich@irell.com>; Holland, Eileen <EHolland@irell.com>; Isaac, Shawana <SIsaac@irell.com>; Kagan, Jonathan
`<JKagan@irell.com>; Manzano, Jim <JManzano@irell.com>; Petersen, Ingrid <ipetersen@irell.com>; Quarnstrom, Brian
`<BQuarnstrom@irell.com>; Theilacker, Leah <LTheilacker@irell.com>; Wang, Kevin <kwang@irell.com>; #Juniper/Finjan
`[Int] <Juniper‐Finjan@irell.com>
`Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: Meet and confer / Mitzenmacher Deposition
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`Kris,
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`Finjan’s motion for summary judgment improperly presents at least the following new theories that were not disclosed in
`Finjan’s infringement contentions:
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` “Http” as the claimed “first function”
` The “verdict engine” and “chain heuristics” as the claimed “security computers”
` “Whitelisting,” starting/stopping file sample analysis, marking an object as “clean,” and moving an object to
`“END” state as the claimed “second function”
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` Transmitting a verdict that is independent of the client computer’s security policy as infringing under the doctrine
`of equivalents
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`Please provide times on Thursday that you are available to confer about these new theories.
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`Best,
`Josh
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`From: Kastens, Kris <KKastens@KRAMERLEVIN.com>
`Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2019 11:34 AM
`To: Glucoft, Josh <JGlucoft@irell.com>
`Cc: ~Andre, Paul <pandre@kramerlevin.com>; ~Caire, Yuridia <ycaire@kramerlevin.com>; ~Hannah, James
`<jhannah@kramerlevin.com>; ~Hedvat, Shannon <shedvat@kramerlevin.com>; ~Kobialka, Lisa
`<lkobialka@kramerlevin.com>; ~Lee, Hannah <hlee@kramerlevin.com>; ~Lee, Michael <mhlee@kramerlevin.com>;
`~Manes, Austin <amanes@kramerlevin.com>; ~Martinez, Cristina <cmartinez@kramerlevin.com>; ~Nguyen, Stephanie
`<SNguyen@KRAMERLEVIN.com>; ~Xu, Linjun <lxu@kramerlevin.com>; Carson, Rebecca <RCarson@irell.com>; Curran,
`Casey <ccurran@irell.com>; Heinrich, Alan <AHeinrich@irell.com>; Holland, Eileen <EHolland@irell.com>; Isaac,
`Shawana <SIsaac@irell.com>; Kagan, Jonathan <JKagan@irell.com>; Manzano, Jim <JManzano@irell.com>; Petersen,
`Ingrid <ipetersen@irell.com>; Quarnstrom, Brian <BQuarnstrom@irell.com>; Theilacker, Leah <LTheilacker@irell.com>;
`Wang, Kevin <kwang@irell.com>
`Subject: RE: Meet and confer / Mitzenmacher Deposition
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`Josh,
`Your response doesn’t provide any information. What are you going to say during the meet and confer isn’t disclosed? I
`can’t prepare for our call until I have this information. I’m not available anymore tomorrow, but I should be able to
`provide times within 1‐2 days of you providing the contentions you allege are not disclosed.
`‐ Kris
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`Kris Kastens
`Partner
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`Kramer Levin Naftalis & Frankel LLP
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`990 Marsh Road, Menlo Park, California 94025
`T 650.752.1715 F 650.752.1815
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`This communication (including any attachments) is intended solely for the recipient(s) named above and may contain information that is
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`Thank you for your cooperation.
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`From: Glucoft, Josh <JGlucoft@irell.com>
`Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2019 10:44 AM
`To: Kastens, Kris <KKastens@KRAMERLEVIN.com>
`Cc: Andre, Paul <PAndre@KRAMERLEVIN.com>; Caire, Yuridia <YCaire@KRAMERLEVIN.com>; Hannah, James
`<JHannah@KRAMERLEVIN.com>; Hedvat, Shannon H. <SHedvat@KRAMERLEVIN.com>; Kobialka, Lisa
`<LKobialka@KRAMERLEVIN.com>; Lee, Hannah <HLee@KRAMERLEVIN.com>; Lee, Michael H.
`<MHLee@KRAMERLEVIN.com>; Manes, Austin <AManes@KRAMERLEVIN.com>; Martinez, Cristina
`<CMartinez@KRAMERLEVIN.com>; Nguyen, Stephanie <SNguyen@KRAMERLEVIN.com>; Xu, Linda
`<LXu@KRAMERLEVIN.com>; Carson, Rebecca <RCarson@irell.com>; Curran, Casey <ccurran@irell.com>; Heinrich, Alan
`<AHeinrich@irell.com>; Holland, Eileen <EHolland@irell.com>; Isaac, Shawana <SIsaac@irell.com>; Kagan, Jonathan
`<JKagan@irell.com>; Manzano, Jim <JManzano@irell.com>; Petersen, Ingrid <ipetersen@irell.com>; Quarnstrom, Brian
`<BQuarnstrom@irell.com>; Theilacker, Leah <LTheilacker@irell.com>; Wang, Kevin <kwang@irell.com>; #Juniper/Finjan
`[Int] <Juniper‐Finjan@irell.com>
`Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Meet and confer / Mitzenmacher Deposition
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`Kris,
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`Finjan’s motion for summary judgment presents a large number of new theories, including identifying new components as
`comprising the claimed “content processor” and “security computer.” I will call you at 2 pm Pacific tomorrow
`(Wednesday) to confer.
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`Thanks,
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`Josh
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`On Mar 3, 2019, at 7:12 PM, Kastens, Kris <KKastens@kramerlevin.com> wrote:
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`Josh,
`Identify the infringement scenarios that you contend that were not previously disclosed so that we can
`have a meaningful meet and confer. We are not available on Monday, but should be able to meet and
`confer on Wednesday.
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`Also, we have additional details regarding the deposition tomorrow. The deposition will most likely start
`late as a result of the anticipated snow tonight but should begin by 9:30AM‐10:00AM. Furthermore, the
`deposition will be held on the 5th floor in the Forest Hills room.
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`Sincerely,
`Kris
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`Kris Kastens
`Partner
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`Kramer Levin Naftalis & Frankel LLP
`990 Marsh Road, Menlo Park, California 94025
`T 650.752.1715 F 650.752.1815
`kkastens@kramerlevin.com
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`This communication (including any attachments) is intended solely for the recipient(s) named above and may contain
`information that is confidential, privileged or legally protected. Any unauthorized use or dissemination of this communication is
`strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify the sender by return e-mail
`message and delete all copies of the original communication. Thank you for your cooperation.
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`From: Glucoft, Josh <JGlucoft@irell.com>
`Sent: Friday, March 1, 2019 11:02 AM
`To: Andre, Paul <PAndre@KRAMERLEVIN.com>; Caire, Yuridia <YCaire@KRAMERLEVIN.com>; Hannah,
`James <JHannah@KRAMERLEVIN.com>; Hedvat, Shannon H. <SHedvat@KRAMERLEVIN.com>; Kastens,
`Kris <KKastens@KRAMERLEVIN.com>; Kobialka, Lisa <LKobialka@KRAMERLEVIN.com>; Lee, Hannah
`<HLee@KRAMERLEVIN.com>; Lee, Michael H. <MHLee@KRAMERLEVIN.com>; Manes, Austin
`<AManes@KRAMERLEVIN.com>; Martinez, Cristina <CMartinez@KRAMERLEVIN.com>; Nguyen,
`Stephanie <SNguyen@KRAMERLEVIN.com>; Xu, Linda <LXu@KRAMERLEVIN.com>
`Cc: Carson, Rebecca <RCarson@irell.com>; Curran, Casey <ccurran@irell.com>; Glucoft, Josh
`<JGlucoft@irell.com>; Heinrich, Alan <AHeinrich@irell.com>; Holland, Eileen <EHolland@irell.com>;
`Isaac, Shawana <SIsaac@irell.com>; Kagan, Jonathan <JKagan@irell.com>; Manzano, Jim
`<JManzano@irell.com>; Petersen, Ingrid <ipetersen@irell.com>; Quarnstrom, Brian
`<BQuarnstrom@irell.com>; Theilacker, Leah <LTheilacker@irell.com>; Wang, Kevin <kwang@irell.com>;
`#Juniper/Finjan [Int] <Juniper‐Finjan@irell.com>
`Subject: [EXTERNAL] Meet and confer
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`Counsel,
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`Finjan’s motion for summary judgment improperly presents new theories not previously disclosed in
`Finjan’s infringement contentions. Please provide times on Monday that Finjan is available to confer
`about these new theories.
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`Best,
`Josh
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`Joshua P. Glucoft | Irell & Manella LLP | 310.203.7189 | www.irell.com
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